Honey as a sugar substitute

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Big Al

Honey as a sugar substitute

Post by Big Al » Wed Jun 10, 2009 11:24 am

I am tempted to try a brew using honey instead of sugar.
Would this turn out ok in a lager kit? Or should I use it in a ale kit?

Also how much honey should I use to substitute 1kg of brewing sugar?

pauljmuk

Re: Honey as a sugar substitute

Post by pauljmuk » Wed Jun 10, 2009 11:40 am

Not done it myself (other than half a jar in a TC kit), but in beer I think the issue with honey is not knowing how fermentable it is, by weight etc - i've not been able to find a reliable conversion.

I think honey suits better as an addition, and not honey alone - others will have experience

Big Al

Re: Honey as a sugar substitute

Post by Big Al » Wed Jun 10, 2009 1:52 pm

I might try go 500g of brewing sugar and then try add a largeish jar of honey and see how that goes down.
Does it need to be a particular type of honey??

Mogwyth

Re: Honey as a sugar substitute

Post by Mogwyth » Wed Jun 10, 2009 7:44 pm

You can use any honey, but bear in mind honey has a deceptively strong aroma/flavour and will have quite an effect on the flavour of your brew, personally I would not add it to lager. It is a good additive to use when making summer style beers from something like a pale ale.

likesbeer

Re: Honey as a sugar substitute

Post by likesbeer » Wed Jun 10, 2009 8:29 pm

I like chucking a bit of honey in my ales, but as said it can be quite strong. Have also done a mead ale just honey as the fermentable and its lush.
Not really being a fan of larger cant say I know how it would turn out, probably no longer larger :lol:

If you look on jar it says how much sugar is in the honey (usually) cheep (ish) stuff tends to be about 80% sugar I use that as the guide so 1kg sugar would be about 1.25kg honey. In a really stong winter beer which used lots of black malt, choclote malt and dark malt extract I used 1kg honey and it was very obvious. For a lighter beer a couple of hundred grams was sufficient to be qute honey ish in flavour.

Give it a go and experiment a little, perhaps go 50/50 with honey and a dry malt extract in an ale kit instead of the sugar (drop that all together) the extra flavour will be great

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Re: Honey as a sugar substitute

Post by Nobby Novice » Thu Jun 11, 2009 7:39 am

I want to make a honey flavoured beer. I have a jar of Asda smart price clear honey which I intend to add to a wherrey kit. I am not sure how much to add, just to give it flavour. Does the honey have to be boiled before adding to the wort ?
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Big Al

Re: Honey as a sugar substitute

Post by Big Al » Thu Jun 11, 2009 12:42 pm

Thanks for all the replies, I think I will investigate a little further and will try and do an ale with a some honey to give it a hint of a taste. From there I can build it up further if I so wish. Many thanks guys.

Mogwyth

Re: Honey as a sugar substitute

Post by Mogwyth » Thu Jun 11, 2009 1:11 pm

Nobby Novice wrote:I want to make a honey flavoured beer. I have a jar of Asda smart price clear honey which I intend to add to a wherrey kit. I am not sure how much to add, just to give it flavour. Does the honey have to be boiled before adding to the wort ?
I wouldn't, in my opinion if you want to make a honey beer from a kit you need to start with lighter beer, while Honey is a strong flavour, in a robust beer like Wherry you would a) need to add a lot to taste it, b) not get anything like a honey beer, c) compromise the balance of the Wherry.

Honey beers are light Summer beers.

BTW I have never bothered boiling it, Honey contains natural antibiotics etc making it a natural preservative so it shouldn't contain any nasties,

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Bill

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Re: Honey as a sugar substitute

Post by Nobby Novice » Thu Jun 11, 2009 4:52 pm

Thanks Mogwyth, I will take your advice and use a lighter beer and then add the honey. I like the summer ales. I shall let you know how I get on.
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Re: Honey as a sugar substitute

Post by JayBee » Sat Jun 13, 2009 9:01 pm

I like to prime a few bottles of whatever I`ve made with honey just to experiment with different flavours. I`ll warm a jar of honey so I can get a level spoonful to pour in quite easily. I also like to prime a few with demerara. I like the flavours these both give and adding each to a half dozen bottles or so each wouldnt be the disaster that adding one or the other to the fv or all the bottles might be otherwise.

KevP

Re: Honey as a sugar substitute

Post by KevP » Sat Jun 13, 2009 9:29 pm

Adding honey will generally result in a very slow clearing beer, if at all, I have had Ciders with a good dollop of Honey take over 3 months to even resemble a clear brew. Honey can be/is very strange complex fermentable, personally I would give it a miss.

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