JWD Honey Brwon and Norwich Bitter - which 1st kit

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adchesney

JWD Honey Brwon and Norwich Bitter - which 1st kit

Post by adchesney » Fri Apr 24, 2009 7:44 pm

Dear Folks,

I am new to Beer homebrew, but have been wine making for some time. However, I need your help...I have two all time best beers that I am trying to replicate.

The first is Norwich Bitter - this was such a smooth and slightly sweet (honeylike) beer - I think they went out of business about 20 years ago.

The second beer I would like to try and replicate is JWD Honey Brown - a light, drinkable beer. http://www.dooyoo.co.uk/drinks/j-w-dund ... er/315702/

This is my first foray into Beer making, I am not trying to save money BUT enjoy some good quality beer.

Your suggestions and help would be much appreciated and I would be most grateful.

ANDREW (Yateley, Hants)

adchesney

1st Kit - A Honey Brown "type"

Post by adchesney » Wed Jun 17, 2009 8:46 pm

Dear Folks,

I am going to try my first brew and wonder if anyone can give thumbs-up or not.

As in my previous post (1st post ever) I would like to get a light honey flavoured beer.

I am going to use:

Coopers Australian IPA
500g LIght SprayMalt
500g Coopers Enhancer #2
300g Honey

I will add the honey 3 days after commencing frementation.

I will then use 100g -150g in the 5gallons when priming for bottling a week or so later.

Does this make sense?

Regards

ANDREW

crafty john

Re: 1st Kit - A Honey Brown "type"

Post by crafty john » Wed Jun 17, 2009 9:09 pm

adchesney wrote:Dear Folks,

I am going to try my first brew and wonder if anyone can give thumbs-up or not.

As in my previous post (1st post ever) I would like to get a light honey flavoured beer.

I am going to use:

Coopers Australian IPA
500g LIght SprayMalt
500g Coopers Enhancer #2
300g Honey

I will add the honey 3 days after commencing frementation.

I will then use 100g -150g in the 5gallons when priming for bottling a week or so later.

Does this make sense?

Regards

ANDREW
I think a maximum of 100 grams for priming or you may have some bottle bombs on your hands :shock:

adchesney

Re: JWD Honey Brwon and Norwich Bitter - which 1st kit

Post by adchesney » Wed Jun 17, 2009 9:23 pm

Thank you.

Any other comments, suggestions, hints, Etc...

I love to learn :-)

ANDREW

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Re: JWD Honey Brwon and Norwich Bitter - which 1st kit

Post by Normski » Thu Jun 18, 2009 7:32 pm

Hi adchesney
Im not sure it'll be very Brown. The Ipa is light an the fermentables are all light too. It may be worth useing a darker spraymalt if you want it Brown.
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rikpo

Re: JWD Honey Brwon and Norwich Bitter - which 1st kit

Post by rikpo » Thu Jun 18, 2009 7:46 pm

Coopers recommend 8g per lt.
So for a 23lt brew this would equal 184g of priming sugar.
I have read that you shouldn't use so much when priming in a barrel but when bottling should you also cut down on coopers recommendations?
Not saying anybodies wrong, I'm just a little confused.

Rikpo.

crafty john

Re: JWD Honey Brwon and Norwich Bitter - which 1st kit

Post by crafty john » Fri Jun 19, 2009 9:03 am

rikpo wrote:Coopers recommend 8g per lt.
So for a 23lt brew this would equal 184g of priming sugar.
I have read that you shouldn't use so much when priming in a barrel but when bottling should you also cut down on coopers recommendations?
Not saying anybodies wrong, I'm just a little confused.

Rikpo.
A good rule of thumb is 1/2 tsp per pint or 85 -100 grams per 5 gallon keg depending what type of keg you use, if I am using a budget keg I bottle 6 pints then keg the rest with 85 grams, Rotokeg I just put the full 5 gallons in with 100 grams as the head space is larger.

adchesney

Light IPA with Honey

Post by adchesney » Wed Jun 24, 2009 10:57 am

Dear Folks

Having made wine for a little while now, the instructions for winemaking that one gets with the kit is outstanding when compared to the lack of instruction for a beer kit.

I have the Coopers Australian Pale Ale and have done the following (which has been gleaned from this site):

(1) Boiled 4 lit of water. (2) Added Spraymalt (500g) and Coopers #2 (500g) to water – brought to boil. (3) Added Coopers Extract and – brought to boil and simmered for 10 minutes. (4) Added 10 lit water to fermentation bucket. (5) Poured content (very hot) of pan to water in fermentation bucket. (6) Topped upto 23lit mark. (7) Allowed to cool to 21c and sprinkled yeast.

SG was about 1040. I used the "Brewing Yeast" that came with the Malt Extract (7g)

I plan to add 300g of Honey on Friday (being three days after).

Regards

ANDREW

Mike the pint supper

Re: JWD Honey Brwon and Norwich Bitter - which 1st kit

Post by Mike the pint supper » Wed Jun 24, 2009 11:35 am

Just out of interest why are you adding the honey 3 days after initial fermentation has begun? Have used honey in a few beers now and always added it at the start!

adchesney

Re: JWD Honey Brwon and Norwich Bitter - which 1st kit

Post by adchesney » Wed Jun 24, 2009 11:55 am

Dear Mike

I read (on another forum) that the beer will retain more of the flavour of the honey, if it is not boiled and added when fermentation is in full-flow?

Regards

ANDREW

Mike the pint supper

Re: JWD Honey Brwon and Norwich Bitter - which 1st kit

Post by Mike the pint supper » Thu Jun 25, 2009 1:05 am

Interesting I may have to try that although I'd only worry about contamination

adchesney

Re: JWD Honey Brwon and Norwich Bitter - which 1st kit

Post by adchesney » Thu Jul 02, 2009 1:56 pm

Dear Folks

Following from above info - I added the Honey on Saturday 27th June.

Today (2nd July) I Siphoned off 11Lit into a clean vessel and added 60 g of Honey (with a little water and microwed for 30 seconds) and bottled into 2Lit PET. With the remaining I siphoned off balance and added 100g of Coopers Brew Enhancer #2 into 2 Lit PET (one bottle have 50% honey primed and 50% CBE#2).

When would you recommend I can start tasting? :-)

Regards
ANDREW

Mike the pint supper

Re: JWD Honey Brwon and Norwich Bitter - which 1st kit

Post by Mike the pint supper » Thu Jul 02, 2009 6:06 pm

As it's a coopers as soon as it's clear! 2 weeks max

adchesney

Re: JWD Honey Brwon and Norwich Bitter - which 1st kit

Post by adchesney » Fri Jul 03, 2009 8:51 am

Dear Folks

I am just a little worried. Within 20 hours of bottling and priming my beer the bottles are bulging – so much so they will not stand up.

I am using 2Lit PET bottles – is this NORMAL?

Should I worry about this, and if so can I reduce the gas by releasing the cap?

As this is my very first batch, any comfort or advice would be appreciated.

crafty john

Re: JWD Honey Brwon and Norwich Bitter - which 1st kit

Post by crafty john » Fri Jul 03, 2009 12:08 pm

adchesney wrote:Dear Folks

I am just a little worried. Within 20 hours of bottling and priming my beer the bottles are bulging – so much so they will not stand up.

I am using 2Lit PET bottles – is this NORMAL?

Should I worry about this, and if so can I reduce the gas by releasing the cap?

As this is my very first batch, any comfort or advice would be appreciated.
If you think they are about to pop just gently twist the cap and release some CO2 :

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