Counterflow cooler HERMS system

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Frothy

Counterflow cooler HERMS system

Post by Frothy » Tue Sep 26, 2006 12:03 pm

A HERMS (Heat exchanger recirculating mash system) as many people know uses a pump and a heat exchanger to recirculate/ heat water through the mash tun. This guys inginuity has lead him to use his counter flow cooler as the heat exchanger.

http://www.strangebrew.ca/Drew/cherms/index.html

Quite why we haven't seen this before I don't know.
Matt

jasonaustin

Post by jasonaustin » Tue Sep 26, 2006 12:22 pm

Probably because most people use PVC hose as the outer jacket of the CFC which is generally only rated to 60C. You would need to use one of those fancy all copper CFCs.

Seveneer

Post by Seveneer » Tue Sep 26, 2006 1:05 pm

Matt,

I've had a look all over that site and can't find any picture of him using this design. Maybe he never actually used it. Or maybe it didn't work well enough. I'm not knocking it as it looks like an ingenius device but I'm just a little surprised that he doesn't show it off on his website.

Is this something you're thinking of building into your system?

/Phil.

Vossy1

Post by Vossy1 » Tue Sep 26, 2006 1:37 pm

Without hi jacking the topic, I'd like to know a liitle more about your set up on this side of things Seveneer...if you don't mind that is 8)

andybrock

Post by andybrock » Tue Sep 26, 2006 3:58 pm

I'm planning a HERMS system but going completely different.

I've built a 3 tier gravity system out of Dexiom racking and 2x gas burners, and am in the process of converting 50l SS Kegs.

I was going to build a jacket for the mash tun, and was considering wrapping the outside of the keg in 15mm copper pipe, then injecting expanding foam between the keg/copper and external jacket (inside heavy duty plastic bags so I can unpack it if needed).

I can then run hot water from the HLT through the jacket to preheat the MT and maintain temp.

I could also us it as a fermenter and run hot/cold through the jacket as well.

Andy

Vossy1

Post by Vossy1 » Tue Sep 26, 2006 4:15 pm

Interesting :idea:

Keep us updated AB 8)

Seveneer

Post by Seveneer » Tue Sep 26, 2006 7:49 pm

Vossy1 wrote:Without hi jacking the topic, I'd like to know a liitle more about your set up on this side of things Seveneer...if you don't mind that is 8)
I am in the process of putting together a new web page with details of my set up but, as you've asked, my heat exchanger is a 12 inch long length of 4 inch copper pipe with one end sealed by gluing a circle of copper plate to it with JB-Weld. I then wound a coil of 8mm copper and stuck it in the other end. I have fitted the sealed end with a kettle element and filled the lot with water. A thermocouple is mounted on the exit side of the 8mm tubing and is connected to a PID controller which, in turn, controls the kettle element.

The exchanger isn't sealed at the top as there's no need to do so. It also allows me to top up the water before each brew session. I did consider an expansion tank but this would have been overkill :lol: .

All very simple really. This is what it looks like....

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I hope this helps.

Sorry, Matt, I hope this doesn't hijack your thread :?

/Phil.

Vossy1

Post by Vossy1 » Tue Sep 26, 2006 7:56 pm

Thanks Seveneer...oh so simple and it works a treat 8)

Looking forward to your web page :D

Seveneer

Post by Seveneer » Tue Sep 26, 2006 8:02 pm

Vossy1 wrote: Looking forward to your web page :D
You'll have it just as soon as I stop brewing or drinking for a while :lol:

/Phil

Vossy1

Post by Vossy1 » Tue Sep 26, 2006 8:28 pm

Hopefully I'll have built my own by then :D :D

Seveneer

Post by Seveneer » Tue Sep 26, 2006 8:33 pm

Vossy1 wrote:Hopefully I'll have built my own by then :D :D
:roll: :lol:

Seveneer

Post by Seveneer » Tue Sep 26, 2006 10:31 pm

Ok Vossy, I've uploaded a page just for you. It needs a complete rethink but at least it's a start. So, have you built your system yet?? :wink:

Erm...click the link below...

/Phil.

Vossy1

Post by Vossy1 » Wed Sep 27, 2006 12:02 am

Ruddy hell Phil, that was quick :roll:

2 pints a night......100ltrs....i thought I at least has SOME time :lol:
Going to have a look right now :!:

Vossy1

Post by Vossy1 » Wed Sep 27, 2006 12:03 am

Where's the link gone :?: :(

Seveneer

Post by Seveneer » Wed Sep 27, 2006 8:10 am

Along the footer of every post I make.

Just in case you don't find it....

http://www.philrobins.org.uk

/Phil.

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