Baltic Porter

[arkadiuszmakarenko]

54% munich malt
36% lager malt
9% carapils
1% chocolate malt
0,5% black malt

Hops
bittering hops 10-30 IBU marynka 8%AA
30`- 10-30IBU - 20 g Lubelski 3%AA
In total between 20 and 40 IBU
so something between 20-40g bittering hops and simiar amout od hops for taste (30`)
OG - 1.060 – 1.090
Single step infusion minimu 60 minutes in 68*C.
Lager yeast (Saflager S-23) or neural ale yeast. Fermentation in lower temperatures depens of yest (10-12 for lager ;15-17 for ale).

[adm]

Now that's an interesting recipe!

I'd never even heard of those hops - so I did a bit of a Google and found an excellent Michael Jackson article here which talks about the hops and a similar beer.

"The high spot of the tasting was Okocim Porter, bottom-fermenting, but in the vein of a Baltic or "Imperial" Stout.

This has a pillowy head, a purply black colour, a sweetly hoppy, almost minty. menthol-like aroma a firm, smooth, lightly oily body, a medicinal start, devel-oping cinnamon and raisin notes, and a balance of woody dryness.

It has a gravity of 1088; is brewed from pale, Munich, crystal and dark malts; and emerges with an ABV of 8.1.

Its bitterness is in the range of 34-45... and the hops? Ah, yes - they are regular Lublin and Marynka."

[arkadiuszmakarenko]

Now that's an interesting recipe!

I'd never even heard of those hops - so I did a bit of a Google and found an excellent Michael Jackson article here which talks about the hops and a similar beer.

It`s not similar it`s the same style. At the moment in 2007 list of best 10 porters in Poland (beer competition 2007 by www.browar.biz) but still very difficult to get.
1. Zamkowy, Żywiecki Porter
2. Fortuna, Komes Porter
3. Ciechanów, Porter
4. Łódzkie, Porter
5. BOSS, Porter
6. BOSS, Black Boss Porter
7. Krajan, Porter
8. Staropolski, Porter
9. Jędrzejów [ex. Strzelec], Strzelec Porter
10. Okocim, Porter

[Stonechat]

One of our forum members with his own commercial brewery and the handle of "Beerbloke" uses Polish hops in one of his beers. I can't remember the name of it, but it's a cracking beer.

[babalu87]

If you can try to get 25% of the grain bill as Vienna in addition to what you have listed.

Wyeast 2112 is a FINE yeast for a Baltic too. Ferment in the low 60's

[steve_flack]

I was planning on using Fermentis S-189 for my upcoming Baltic Porter. As it's the Swiss Hurlimann yeast it should be able to take the high gravity - I believe it's similar to White Labs Zurich Lager.

[arkadiuszmakarenko]

mount Item Type % or IBU
5.44 kg Munich Malt II (22.0 EBC) Grain 58.18 %
3.17 kg Pilsner (2 Row) Ger (4.0 EBC) Grain 33.90 %
0.23 kg Caramunich® TYPE III (150.0 EBC) Grain 2.46 %
0.23 kg Special B Malt (350.0 EBC) Grain 2.46 %
0.17 kg Carafa Special II (1200.0 EBC) Grain 1.82 %
0.11 kg Chocolate malt (700.0 EBC) Grain 1.18 %
100.00 gm Lublin [3.00 %] (60 min) Hops 35.7 IBU
30.00 gm Lublin [3.00 %] (15 min) Hops 2.9 IBU

Mash Schedule: Temperature Mash, 1 Step, Medium Body
Total Grain Weight: 9.35 kg
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Temperature Mash, 1 Step, Medium Body
Step Time Name Description Step Temp
60 min Saccharification Add 25.00 L of water at 72.2 C 66.0 C
10 min Mash Out Heat to 75.6 C over 10 min 75.6 C

What do you think about this? And I`ve been thinking to use California Lager yeast. (I still don`t have place to ferment real lagers )

[babalu87]

mount Item Type % or IBU
5.44 kg Munich Malt II (22.0 EBC) Grain 58.18 %
3.17 kg Pilsner (2 Row) Ger (4.0 EBC) Grain 33.90 %
0.23 kg Caramunich® TYPE III (150.0 EBC) Grain 2.46 %
0.23 kg Special B Malt (350.0 EBC) Grain 2.46 %
0.17 kg Carafa Special II (1200.0 EBC) Grain 1.82 %
0.11 kg Chocolate malt (700.0 EBC) Grain 1.18 %
100.00 gm Lublin [3.00 %] (60 min) Hops 35.7 IBU
30.00 gm Lublin [3.00 %] (15 min) Hops 2.9 IBU

Mash Schedule: Temperature Mash, 1 Step, Medium Body
Total Grain Weight: 9.35 kg
----------------------------
Temperature Mash, 1 Step, Medium Body
Step Time Name Description Step Temp
60 min Saccharification Add 25.00 L of water at 72.2 C 66.0 C
10 min Mash Out Heat to 75.6 C over 10 min 75.6 C

What do you think about this? And I`ve been thinking to use California Lager yeast. (I still don`t have place to ferment real lagers )

I think it needs some Vienna

Have you searched the internet for swamp cooler?

Here are a few pics of mine, I can drop up to twenty degrees F below ambient temps with a few bottles of ice swapped out twice a day, fill the cooler about 1/2 way with water and away you go:

[adm]

I think it needs some Vienna

Are you crazy, man? There's 6 different malts in there anyway.....

(I don't know what malts SHOULD be in a Baltic Porter, but I do know that less is more.....or more is less.....or more is more...or something like that). Anyway - to mind mind, you should be just about able to taste and name every malt and hop in a beer (if you really know your onions), but if you add too many, i think you'll run the risk of ending up with a confusing mess that's neither fish nor fowl.

[oblivious]

looks good arkadiuszmakarenko keeps us posted on how it gets on

[babalu87]

I think it needs some Vienna

Are you crazy, man? There's 6 different malts in there anyway......

Nope

http://www.beertown.org/events/nhc/firs ... heast.html

Category 12

[oblivious]

Nope

http://www.beertown.org/events/nhc/firs ... heast.html

Category 12

Did you place?

[arkadiuszmakarenko]

I think it needs some Vienna

Are you crazy, man? There's 6 different malts in there anyway.....

(I don't know what malts SHOULD be in a Baltic Porter, but I do know that less is more.....or more is less.....or more is more...or something like that). Anyway - to mind mind, you should be just about able to taste and name every malt and hop in a beer (if you really know your onions), but if you add too many, i think you'll run the risk of ending up with a confusing mess that's neither fish nor fowl.

You are right. It is too complicaled. I will find something simpler. Do you know any simple recipies for baltic porter?

[babalu87]

Nope

http://www.beertown.org/events/nhc/firs ... heast.html

Category 12

Did you place?

Mine was first

Couldnt beat out to Jamil in the finals

I think it needs some Vienna

Are you crazy, man? There's 6 different malts in there anyway.....

(I don't know what malts SHOULD be in a Baltic Porter, but I do know that less is more.....or more is less.....or more is more...or something like that). Anyway - to mind mind, you should be just about able to taste and name every malt and hop in a beer (if you really know your onions), but if you add too many, i think you'll run the risk of ending up with a confusing mess that's neither fish nor fowl.

You are right. It is too complicaled. I will find something simpler. Do you know any simple recipies for baltic porter?

Complicated doesnt = hard, go for it

[oblivious]

Congratulation babalu