Coopers Stout gravity question

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Steiney66

Coopers Stout gravity question

Post by Steiney66 » Wed Sep 30, 2009 1:54 pm

On sunday I brewed up a coopers stout with a kilo of DSM & with the water made it up to 17.5 litres. (in the hope it didnt make a break for it - unfortunately my missus first words upon going down stairs on Monday morning was "it smells like your beers exploded". :roll:
Anyway after it had settled I added a 5ltr bottle of lidls finest to bring up to 22.5. My question is how do you work out the alc strength when youve added more water at a second stage? (At 17.5 it was 1048, it was down to 1011 when I topped up & today its 1009).

Any advice appreciated

Steiney

EoinMag

Re: Coopers Stout gravity question

Post by EoinMag » Wed Sep 30, 2009 2:07 pm

You can't really, well you could have had you taken a reading before adding water and had a head for the maths, but you can't know very accuratetly now. Don't worry it will now come out where it originally should have, what ABV do people normally get for this beer? Yours should be similar.

b.all

Re: Coopers Stout gravity question

Post by b.all » Wed Sep 30, 2009 2:19 pm

with the readings you've got it's certainly possible to work out the strength. hope this helps:

firstly work out the strength you've got in the initial fermentation before you topped up with water simply using the gravities. then you have 17.5 litres of a certain percentage alcohol to which you add 5 litres so you can get both the strength you've diluted it to as 17.5/22.5 times what it was before and the gravity is also reduced by diluting. pure water is 1.000 so you have 5*1.000 plus 17.5 times your gravity at the point which is all divided by 22.5 to give you the gravity after dilution. if their has been a gravity drop from that to your final gravity then you need to work out what extra alcohol content has been added b using the usual formula.i wouldn't be surprised if no more fermentation occurred after you topped up.

an alternative and simpler method which should yield the same result is to work out what your starting gravity would have been if you had made it to 22.5 litres using a similar calculation to the gravity calculation i mentioned earlier. after that you can just use a normal alcohol calculation from your calculated original gravity and you measured final gravity.

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Re: Coopers Stout gravity question

Post by Ditch » Wed Sep 30, 2009 2:50 pm

Personally, I just accept that it'll be around the 4% or so mark. Drink it. Enjoy it.

I gave up worrying about Gravities decades ago. Bought a Hydrometer when I started again. Probably used it about twice. Now given up and not even sure where the damn thing is!

Eyes are too poor to see the reading. Brain's too poor to work out what it all means. Hasn't stopped me enjoying my pints in the least! :wink:

EoinMag

Re: Coopers Stout gravity question

Post by EoinMag » Wed Sep 30, 2009 3:47 pm

b.all wrote:with the readings you've got it's certainly possible to work out the strength. hope this helps:

firstly work out the strength you've got in the initial fermentation before you topped up with water simply using the gravities. then you have 17.5 litres of a certain percentage alcohol to which you add 5 litres so you can get both the strength you've diluted it to as 17.5/22.5 times what it was before and the gravity is also reduced by diluting. pure water is 1.000 so you have 5*1.000 plus 17.5 times your gravity at the point which is all divided by 22.5 to give you the gravity after dilution. if their has been a gravity drop from that to your final gravity then you need to work out what extra alcohol content has been added b using the usual formula.i wouldn't be surprised if no more fermentation occurred after you topped up.

an alternative and simpler method which should yield the same result is to work out what your starting gravity would have been if you had made it to 22.5 litres using a similar calculation to the gravity calculation i mentioned earlier. after that you can just use a normal alcohol calculation from your calculated original gravity and you measured final gravity.

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chris_reboot

Re: Coopers Stout gravity question

Post by chris_reboot » Wed Sep 30, 2009 3:58 pm

you beat me to it I just had to find my calculator.....

seriously though, as Ditch says, abv% is a big hang up for most folk.
I like to know its fermented out, and roughly to what level, which is why I take readings, but mostly dont worry about OG, more the FG readings to see its finished.

you'll know from drinking it how to pace yourself! :twisted:

EoinMag

Re: Coopers Stout gravity question

Post by EoinMag » Wed Sep 30, 2009 6:12 pm

I don't tend to bother too much with the gravities either, I just leave it long enough fermenting that anything that's going to ferment out has fermented out, not once have I racked as a result of a hydrometer reading, but I tend to take a hydrometer reading when racking or bottling. If it's not finished in 4 weeks...then it's not gonna finish, the beers taste good and they get me pished, that'll do nicely thanks :)

Steiney66

Re: Coopers Stout gravity question

Post by Steiney66 » Wed Sep 30, 2009 10:00 pm

cheers chaps,

Im still a bit new to all this so my saddish interest in measuring alc strength will wane- Think because ive been doing a few brewferm ales Im interested in how strong I can get the beer. But being kits I suppose they are what they are. Anyways hopefully be hittin the coopers in a week or so!

steiney

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