Advice on an All-Munich beer??

[WishboneBrewery]

I seem to be the proud owner of half a sack of Munich... So, it would be rude not to make an all-Munich ale.
I'd be adding some Caramalt too.

Hopping would maybe be something continental but I'm open to suggestions, I wondered whether a bittering with Fuggles & Challenger and finishing with Saaz...
I can't help thinking of the Sarah Hughes Dark Ruby recipe, but with Munich and Caramalt, kind of an Old Strong Mild
anyone got any ideas or actually brewed an almost fully Munich beer?

Cheers

[6470zzy]

The most Munich that I have done is 40% with 50% Pale and 10% crystal. When you go heavy on the Munich I think that its good to have a good dose of hops to go with it, for example 70 IBU

Cheers

[De-Geert]

I made an Alt once with 99,5% munich and 0,5% chocolate. The hop I used was Hallertau Perle, and the yeast Wyeast 1007 German Ale.

Very nice!

[mysterio]

70 IBU!

I'm not sure about that. I have made a few Munich heavy lagers, and one 100 % Munich beer. It is a very distinct flavour and very nice too.

If you want a dry beer you will have to step mash it, all- Munich worts tend to be quite dextrinous.

It's really worth making a lager with it in order to appreciate the full glory of the malt.

[Stonechat]

Not an all Munich beer, but used a lot of it in "Goodbye Munich, Goodnight Vienna", which was brewed to use up some specialist malts obtained from BarleyBottom.

Maris Otter 2700g
Vienna Malt 1284g
Munich Malt 1706g

Start of boil
Green Bullet 28g
End of boil
NZ Styrian Goldings 30g

38 EBU....finished with 26.5 litres at 1050OG....fermented with a sachet of S-33.

Bottled it and have sampled a dozen bottles. The addition of the two continental malts has given it a subtle slight biscuit malt flavour. The hops have worked well, but the predominate taste is the malt. Although it was a "use up ingredients brew" I am pleased with it and would do something similar in the future.

[Eadweard]

St Austell did an all munich beer which was very good. Admiral's Ale or something similar?

[mysterio]

Looks very tasty Stonechat

[6470zzy]

70 IBU!

I'm not sure about that.

I am only putting forth my preference, and in an American style ale I like something with 70 IBU, I am certainly not saying that it will be everyone's taste nor appropriate for every style, however it works for my recipe.

Cheers

[mysterio]

Fair enough, I thought it was a misprint

What kind of OG are you doing in that beer ?

[steve_flack]

I've read that alts and dunkels use mostly munich malt but I've been a bit loath to try them out due to a fear of poor conversion in the mash tun. Has anyone done a beer like this with BRITISH Munich malt (as opposed to German). I guess you could always chuck 25% pilsner malt in and that should help conversion if there's any problems.

[mysterio]

Yes i've done it and it converted fine, I gave it an extra long mash. I wonder if the British stuff is darker than the German stuff as the flavour was quite extremely malty compared to the Dunkels i've tasted.

P.S. Steve do you want a bottle of Flanders then ?

[WishboneBrewery]

I made an Alt once with 99,5% munich and 0,5% chocolate. The hop I used was Hallertau Perle, and the yeast Wyeast 1007 German Ale.

Sounds interesting, sounds like a good beer

St Austell did an all munich beer which was very good. Admiral's Ale or something similar?

Cracking suggestion One of my favoured bottled ales

Yes i've done it and it converted fine, I gave it an extra long mash. I wonder if the British stuff is darker than the German stuff as the flavour was quite extremely malty compared to the Dunkels i've tasted.

Longer Mash, how much longer?

Cheers for all the input guys

[mysterio]

Like 90 minutes plus 10 minutes of vorlaufing ?

I would recommend just using 50% Munich malt for your first try.

[WishboneBrewery]

90 mins has been my standard mash duration (done a couple of quicky 60 min mashes and not noticed any detriment).
So I'd be better starting at a low temp then raising after an hour...? Start with a thick Mash then add hot liquor to warm it up and loosen it.

[6470zzy]

Fair enough, I thought it was a misprint

What kind of OG are you doing in that beer ?

1070 OG