Adapted Kit Recipes.
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darran
Re: Adapted Kit Recipes.
jiffy gro heat mats start around ten quid up to 30 i suppose so very thrifty
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seanipops
Re: Adapted Kit Recipes.
I've read this thread with much interest and thought I'd share both my successes with you.
Great Eastern With Elderflowers
Standard GE recipe brewed to 22ltrs with a elderflower hopped tea added. I then kept the Elderflowers I'd used in the tea making in a muslin bag, added a rubber bung to stop it floating on the top and then chucked it in the FV for primary fermentation.
Some very strange things happened to this beer; firstly the OG came out at 1060. I'd assumed that the Elderflowers had somehow added to the density of the wort but subsequently found out that I'd not mixed it as well as I might have done (it was only my 8th brew in 3 months) and I was filling a trial jar from a tap at the bottom of the FV (I now take a reading from the top).
The other thing that was really odd was that it fermented down to to 1008 in 6 days. I've never, before or since, fermented any two can kit down that far, even though I have a brewing fridge, use yeast vit, aerate the wort with a handblender etc. Incidentally I checked the FG with two different hydrometers. I ended up bottling 6 and kegging the rest. It was a lovely pint and I'll be doing another elderflower experiment in the new year.
Coopers IPA with added Amarillo Hops
A bit of background on this one; two of my favourite beers are Darwin Brewery's Rolling Hitch and Crouch Vale's Amarillo. Surprise, surprise both contain Amarillo Hops. I was trying to get a close approximation to either of these beers. The first kit tweak I did was Milestone IPA which was ok once I'd left it to condition for 10 weeks.
Then I tried the Coopers kit. It was only bottled on 14th November. Tried one last night. Wow.
1 can Coopers IPA
500g hopped spraymalt
500g golden cane sugar
35g Amarillo hopped tea (15 mins).
In a couple of weeks time it'll probably taste even better.
The next two experiments will be a Wherry with Elderflower and a Great Eastern with the last of the Amarillo.
Great Eastern With Elderflowers
Standard GE recipe brewed to 22ltrs with a elderflower hopped tea added. I then kept the Elderflowers I'd used in the tea making in a muslin bag, added a rubber bung to stop it floating on the top and then chucked it in the FV for primary fermentation.
Some very strange things happened to this beer; firstly the OG came out at 1060. I'd assumed that the Elderflowers had somehow added to the density of the wort but subsequently found out that I'd not mixed it as well as I might have done (it was only my 8th brew in 3 months) and I was filling a trial jar from a tap at the bottom of the FV (I now take a reading from the top).
The other thing that was really odd was that it fermented down to to 1008 in 6 days. I've never, before or since, fermented any two can kit down that far, even though I have a brewing fridge, use yeast vit, aerate the wort with a handblender etc. Incidentally I checked the FG with two different hydrometers. I ended up bottling 6 and kegging the rest. It was a lovely pint and I'll be doing another elderflower experiment in the new year.
Coopers IPA with added Amarillo Hops
A bit of background on this one; two of my favourite beers are Darwin Brewery's Rolling Hitch and Crouch Vale's Amarillo. Surprise, surprise both contain Amarillo Hops. I was trying to get a close approximation to either of these beers. The first kit tweak I did was Milestone IPA which was ok once I'd left it to condition for 10 weeks.
Then I tried the Coopers kit. It was only bottled on 14th November. Tried one last night. Wow.
1 can Coopers IPA
500g hopped spraymalt
500g golden cane sugar
35g Amarillo hopped tea (15 mins).
In a couple of weeks time it'll probably taste even better.
The next two experiments will be a Wherry with Elderflower and a Great Eastern with the last of the Amarillo.
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darran
Re: Adapted Kit Recipes.
ta for that very very intresting i think ill try an elderflower when iv got saoce
ps whats a 2 can kit ??
ps whats a 2 can kit ??
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scottmoss
Re: Adapted Kit Recipes.
A 2 can kit is a premium 3kg kit (usually around £18+ mark) You get 2 cans of malt within the kit.darran wrote:ta for that very very intresting i think ill try an elderflower when iv got saoce
ps whats a 2 can kit ??
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darran
Re: Adapted Kit Recipes.
now im buggerd a 2 can kit is a one can 3kg kit, so a 2 can kits a one can kit but dearer.
scot see just the cans of malt extract the eight quid ones can you use this with some hops to make your own beer
ta darran
scot see just the cans of malt extract the eight quid ones can you use this with some hops to make your own beer
ta darran
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Manx Guy
Re: Adapted Kit Recipes.
Hi!
you can but technically thats 'extract brewing' and the method is a lot diffrent to using a kit....
maybe you could try adapting a few brews from kits (adding hops etc) to get used to the methods and then give them a go....
If you want good value for money beer then a 1x 1.5-1.8kg can kit with some dried malt extract often works out the best VFM INMHO...
A premium single can kit eg. Coopers sparkling ale plus the fermentables can cost as much as a 3kg (2 can kit) although the results are comparable in quality of beer (again IMHO)
So you basically are making a personal choice depending on the style of beer you prefer and what you are willing to pay for each batch...
I made a EDME Yorkshire bitter kit with Holland & barrett malt extract and saved a few quid compared to using dried ME from a HBS... the result is a good malty but well balanced beer
Back onto the thread of this post.. ADDPTED KIT RECEIPES... I made a Coopers Origional Series Draught up adding 500g Light Dried Malt Extract & S-23 yeast slurry to 12.5 litres see the thread below:
viewtopic.php?f=4&t=28676
I got the idea from the Coopers website:
http://www.coopers.com.au/homebrew/make ... =7&bid=118
Slainte!!
you can but technically thats 'extract brewing' and the method is a lot diffrent to using a kit....
maybe you could try adapting a few brews from kits (adding hops etc) to get used to the methods and then give them a go....
If you want good value for money beer then a 1x 1.5-1.8kg can kit with some dried malt extract often works out the best VFM INMHO...
A premium single can kit eg. Coopers sparkling ale plus the fermentables can cost as much as a 3kg (2 can kit) although the results are comparable in quality of beer (again IMHO)
So you basically are making a personal choice depending on the style of beer you prefer and what you are willing to pay for each batch...
I made a EDME Yorkshire bitter kit with Holland & barrett malt extract and saved a few quid compared to using dried ME from a HBS... the result is a good malty but well balanced beer
Back onto the thread of this post.. ADDPTED KIT RECEIPES... I made a Coopers Origional Series Draught up adding 500g Light Dried Malt Extract & S-23 yeast slurry to 12.5 litres see the thread below:
viewtopic.php?f=4&t=28676
I got the idea from the Coopers website:
http://www.coopers.com.au/homebrew/make ... =7&bid=118
Slainte!!
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hopper
Re: Adapted Kit Recipes.
I bought 2 2can kits milestones black pearl and lions pride i made up 1can of each with half the water i.e 11l of black pearl and 11l of lions pride . I then conbine the other 2 cans to make a black pearl ,lions pride clone (lions pearl) i dont have a clue what this clone will taste like . any way i will post results in about a month. has anyone ever combined two different kits .. or is this a touch of madness setting in.
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Manx Guy
Re: Adapted Kit Recipes.
Hmmm... Intersting...
Wonder if it will turn out like this I saw on a link posted on this thread earlier:
"50/50 Dark Ale"
850g (half a can) Coopers Stout
850g (half a can) Coopers Real Ale
250g Light Dry Malt Extract
250g Dextrose
250g Raw Sugar
250g Dry Corn Syrup
6g Willamette Hop Pellets (finishing)
1 Pkt Coopers Yeast (from the kit)
Bottle Conditioning----4 weeks (min)
The link is:
http://www.aussiehomebrewing.com/AleRec ... cipes.html
BTW: my 12.5l Coopers Draught experiemnt is still bubbling away nicely...
I'll take an SG reading at the weekend to see how its coming along.... The cold weather is ideal for using Saflager S-23
Slainte!
Wonder if it will turn out like this I saw on a link posted on this thread earlier:
"50/50 Dark Ale"
850g (half a can) Coopers Stout
850g (half a can) Coopers Real Ale
250g Light Dry Malt Extract
250g Dextrose
250g Raw Sugar
250g Dry Corn Syrup
6g Willamette Hop Pellets (finishing)
1 Pkt Coopers Yeast (from the kit)
Bottle Conditioning----4 weeks (min)
The link is:
http://www.aussiehomebrewing.com/AleRec ... cipes.html
BTW: my 12.5l Coopers Draught experiemnt is still bubbling away nicely...
I'll take an SG reading at the weekend to see how its coming along.... The cold weather is ideal for using Saflager S-23
Slainte!
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moobli
Re: Adapted Kit Recipes.
Just put in the brew room the adapted lager kit i was going to do before the muntons test lit arrived
1 x bargain brew lager kit
25g hops made into a tea(hollentrau)
1 kg of light malt extract
11.5 g pouch of saflager s23
made up to 24 litres
the remaining hops put into a fine muslin bag and suspended into the brew where it will stay for around 4-5 days
didnt get a gravity as i was disturbed by the noise from the living room which involved my 3 yr old son ,two 10 week old kittens and a 7ft xmas tree and a cheese string , nuff said
1 x bargain brew lager kit
25g hops made into a tea(hollentrau)
1 kg of light malt extract
11.5 g pouch of saflager s23
made up to 24 litres
the remaining hops put into a fine muslin bag and suspended into the brew where it will stay for around 4-5 days
didnt get a gravity as i was disturbed by the noise from the living room which involved my 3 yr old son ,two 10 week old kittens and a 7ft xmas tree and a cheese string , nuff said
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Manx Guy
Re: Adapted Kit Recipes.
Hi Moobli!
Hmmm interesting Lager experiment! let us know how it comes along...
I have thought of using the bargin brew kits as a base for experiments also...
I have some Hallertau hops which I still haven't used (but plan to in an upcoming lager experiemnt)...
I hear that Hallertau are better for dry hopping than Saaz, but I'm not 100% certain...
What sort of temp will you be fermenting at?
I find it easy enough to maintain a constant 12C in my un heated utility room, the FV is insulated tho.
I pitched 2 packets of S-23 to be on the safe side and in my current brew (see sig -Coopers draught) I repitched the S-23 yeast slurry with very positive results (so far)
BTW: that 'incident' sounds horrific...
I have my own son (our first) on the way and I think I'm in for a shock as far as how much havoc one small person can bring to a house!
Slainte!
Hmmm interesting Lager experiment! let us know how it comes along...
I have thought of using the bargin brew kits as a base for experiments also...
I have some Hallertau hops which I still haven't used (but plan to in an upcoming lager experiemnt)...
I hear that Hallertau are better for dry hopping than Saaz, but I'm not 100% certain...
What sort of temp will you be fermenting at?
I find it easy enough to maintain a constant 12C in my un heated utility room, the FV is insulated tho.
I pitched 2 packets of S-23 to be on the safe side and in my current brew (see sig -Coopers draught) I repitched the S-23 yeast slurry with very positive results (so far)
BTW: that 'incident' sounds horrific...
I have my own son (our first) on the way and I think I'm in for a shock as far as how much havoc one small person can bring to a house!
Slainte!
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moobli
Re: Adapted Kit Recipes.
hi
my brew is in the brew room (guest bedroom) at about 18-21degrees
i read on here that the hallentrau are better for lager style beers
made one of the bargain brews as per normal and dont think that much of it so much so that it is still in the shed ageing
wasnt that bad just bizarre
toby the 3yr old in the incident is number 2 and is the brawn of the outfit whereas josh(6yr) is the brains
but they keep you on your toes all day
my brew is in the brew room (guest bedroom) at about 18-21degrees
i read on here that the hallentrau are better for lager style beers
made one of the bargain brews as per normal and dont think that much of it so much so that it is still in the shed ageing
wasnt that bad just bizarre
toby the 3yr old in the incident is number 2 and is the brawn of the outfit whereas josh(6yr) is the brains
but they keep you on your toes all day
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moobli
Re: Adapted Kit Recipes.
just removed and wrung out the hop tbag that was in the fv for a couple of days longer than originally planned ,gravity is down to 1.012 had a quick taste and wow what a differance already it is a lot smoother and has a well rounded taste to it,
going to bottle hopefully before new year,this is going to stay in the shed for at least a month before i even think about tasting it
from what i can taste already this is going to be one of the best lagers i have brewed
going to bottle hopefully before new year,this is going to stay in the shed for at least a month before i even think about tasting it
from what i can taste already this is going to be one of the best lagers i have brewed
