Hophead (VI)

[floydmeddler]

Ingredients ordered. Decided to brew it myself too.

Cheers SiHoltye!

[CrownCap]

Been debating what to do for my next brew and I think I have now found my target!

Oodles of cascade here we come

[SiHoltye]

Marvellous! So far I've not stirred the late hops after adding them. Can't for the life of me think why!!! Will do next time, and that's tomorrow with a Sierra Nevada Pale Ale clone.
You're local Crown Cap, Where do you drink?

[CrownCap]

Marvellous! So far I've not stirred the late hops after adding them. Can't for the life of me think why!!! Will do next time, and that's tomorrow with a Sierra Nevada Pale Ale clone.
You're local Crown Cap, Where do you drink?

It was actually a toss up between SNPA and Hophead here too. Went with Hophead as I'm after something a bit lighter in body.

Where do I drink? Mostly from the Crowncap Brewery tap in my garage Occasional pint at the Frogshole Farm (which has some good beers on these days) otherwise around work (West London).

What about yourself - you're a Copthorne lad if I remember rightly?

[floydmeddler]

Do you boys ever come into the Evening Star in Brighton?

[CrownCap]

Afraid not Floyd, but if I ever am out in Brighton it's on my hit list!

[CrownCap]

...I've not stirred the late hops after adding them. Can't for the life of me think why...

The last hoppy brew I did (Summer Lightning) I gave them a good stir while cooling and it seemed to do the trick. However, because the ground water was so cold I had inadvertently cooled the wort to 50C before adding them. Could still see the hop oils forming on the surface though so that lower temperature did no harm.

[SiHoltye]

Do you boys ever come into the Evening Star in Brighton?

Rarely, if I'm working in Brighton with time to spare, more likely to stop in at the Stand Up Inn on the way home, as you probably know another Dark Star pub.

Marvellous! So far I've not stirred the late hops after adding them. Can't for the life of me think why!!! Will do next time, and that's tomorrow with a Sierra Nevada Pale Ale clone.
You're local Crown Cap, Where do you drink?

It was actually a toss up between SNPA and Hophead here too. Went with Hophead as I'm after something a bit lighter in body.

Where do I drink? Mostly from the Crowncap Brewery tap in my garage Occasional pint at the Frogshole Farm (which has some good beers on these days) otherwise around work (West London).

What about yourself - you're a Copthorne lad if I remember rightly?

Usually the social club here in Cop, LP, Sussex, & a guest, or at the Stand Up in Lindfield. More than both I get to the Bree Louise nr. Euston as I'm often in town. 16 real ales and got mates there.

[floydmeddler]

Brewing it next week and am looking forward to it. Any updates?

[CrownCap]

Brewed a batch myself last Saturday. Almost fermented out now and tasting pretty fine but not sure if the aroma is there? Will probably dry hop with the remaining 40g of cascades before I bottle and see if that helps. Sound like a good idea?

[floydmeddler]

Yep, should sort out the aroma. 40g may be over doing it a bit though? What recipe did you go for in the end?

[tomU]

What yeast did you use? If it's something like S-04 then no amount of dry hopping will give you the hop aroma you're after

[WishboneBrewery]

What yeast did you use? If it's something like S-04 then no amount of dry hopping will give you the hop aroma you're after

Many brewers turn to dry hopping in an effort
to get more hop flavor and aroma, but dry
hopping results in a completely different hop
character, which may be out of place in certain
styles.

- from a PDF by Jamil about Late Hopping.

New I'd read it somewhere, Dry Hopping is a totally different thing flavour & Aroma-wise

[tomU]

Dry Hopping is a totally different thing flavour & Aroma-wise

Agreed, it's a much more raw aroma but percieved hop aroma does often come from dry hopping. It's a very economical method compared with late hopping. My point was more that the yeast profile can often affect hop aroma as much if not more than the amount of hops used at any stage. SiHoltye's recipe states californian ale yeast as the yeast used - using a different yeast will give a different (and almost certainly less hoppy) aroma.

Incidentally I cant think of a beer style that dry hopping would be altogether out of place.....

[CrownCap]

Yep, should sort out the aroma. 40g may be over doing it a bit though? What recipe did you go for in the end?

Recipes wise, I went with Si's current thinking of a full boil bunch of hops (also cascades, for 75 mins in this case) with 65g at 5 mins to provide the rest of the IBUs and another 65g when cooled to 80C. About 29IBU in total, although my malt base was a bit bigger for an OG of 1042 (and mashed quite warm at 67.5C).

What yeast did you use? If it's something like S-04 then no amount of dry hopping will give you the hop aroma you're after

I used Nottingham as I had some around - not quite US-05 I know, but certainly not as full profiled as other English ale yeasts.

Its pretty much down to 1010 now so will chuck the dry hops in soon to give then 4 or 5 days before bottling. Was going to use 40g as that's about what I have left over - could scale that back a bit though.