Coopers Yeast

[Hoppkins]

I got this with a Coopers Real Ale kit. I used another yeast (NOttingham Yeast) instead of this though.

Now im coming to do my admirals reserve i realise i only have this yeast left. Is it reliable?

Thanks

[Hoppkins]

Got some nutirient at the ready. Says on the back a teaspoon to wine and stuff.

I'm guessing with 5 gallons i would need a few teaspoons at least.

[tubby_shaw]

Got some nutirient at the ready. Says on the back a teaspoon to wine and stuff.

I'm guessing with 5 gallons i would need a few teaspoons at least.

A wort made from malt "should" have sufficient nutrient for the yeast. Those yeast nutrients are really for country wines totally lacking in nutrient.
I would suggest that you start with a one teaspoon dose

[tubby_shaw]

Got some nutirient at the ready. Says on the back a teaspoon to wine and stuff.

I'm guessing with 5 gallons i would need a few teaspoons at least.

A wort made from malt "should" have sufficient nutrient for the yeast. Those yeast nutrients are really for country wines totally lacking in nutrient.
I would suggest that you start with a one teaspoon dose

Another member here claimed he had a problem with Woodforde kits sticking despite using Safale yeast, I suggested the nutrient 'just incase'. It's worth trying to stack the odds in your favour with these kits imo.

No argument from me DaaB
My post was more to discourage any one from overdoing the yeast nutrient.
IMO that stuff doesn't taste nice
One teaspoon should be more than sufficient for 25 litres of beer.

[tubby_shaw]

You're right TS...i've never tasted it before so I thought i'd give it a try, I wont be doing that again

Yeast is itself a nutrient along with the extra reserves that are added to a packet, it might be worth adding the yeast that came with the kit to the boiling water used to rinse out the tins as extra nutrient.

I have vague memories of someone telling me, or reading that, Fuller's used to add a bucket of yeast to the copper during the boil to act as a nutrient

[inthedark]

it might be worth adding the yeast that came with the kit to the boiling water used to rinse out the tins as extra nutrient.

Great idea - I've been wondering wat to do with all the shiny packets accumulating in the fridge!

[tubby_shaw]

TS/ITD Just dug this up if you are interested

You will see three types of yeast nutrients on the market that can supplement a wort that is high in refined sugars or adjuncts.

Di-ammonium Phosphate - This is strictly a nitrogen supplement that can take the place of a lack of FAN.
Yeast Hulls - This is essentially dead yeast, the carcasses of which act as agglomeration sites and contain some useful residual lipids.
Yeast Nutrient or Energizer - The name can vary, but the intent is a mixture of di-ammonium phosphate, yeast hulls, biotin and vitamins. These mixtures are a more complete dietary supplement for the yeast and what I recommend.
Servomyces (tm) - This product from Lallemand is similar to yeast hulls but differs by having a useful amount of rapidly assimilable zinc, which is an essential enzyme co-factor for yeast health. This product falls within the provisions of the Rheinheitsgebot.

that was 15mins of my life i'll never regain

Good work DaaB
Unfortunately it has now set me off on a quest to understand Free Amino Nitrogen fully

[inthedark]

TS/ITD Just dug this up if you are interested

You will see three types of yeast nutrients on the market that can supplement a wort that is high in refined sugars or adjuncts.

Di-ammonium Phosphate - This is strictly a nitrogen supplement that can take the place of a lack of FAN.
Yeast Hulls - This is essentially dead yeast, the carcasses of which act as agglomeration sites and contain some useful residual lipids.
Yeast Nutrient or Energizer - The name can vary, but the intent is a mixture of di-ammonium phosphate, yeast hulls, biotin and vitamins. These mixtures are a more complete dietary supplement for the yeast and what I recommend.
Servomyces (tm) - This product from Lallemand is similar to yeast hulls but differs by having a useful amount of rapidly assimilable zinc, which is an essential enzyme co-factor for yeast health. This product falls within the provisions of the Rheinheitsgebot.

that was 15mins of my life i'll never regain

I read that bit myself but never made the leap from 'dead yeast cells' to 'bung spare yeast in boiling water to make yeast food'

I agree that JP can make things sound a bit complicated, but if you can translate to a simpler version (thanks, DaaB!) he can be quite useful!

[Immy's Dad]

I've bought a Wherry kit today (yesterday) and will use Gervin with mine. I shall try the 'boil your packaged yeasties' method when I do this kit and report back. (Might not brew for a bit, but hopefully soon).

PS. Just a quick note to say 'thanks' to my 7 month old boy for making me wake up at this ungodly hour.