something with columbus. . Help please

[Deebee]

hi all. Not been around much of late. Too much work and not enough time:-)
Either way, the first brew for 2011 is planned as a landlord clone. For the second i would like to use some 16% columbus i have. Anyone tip me a recipe. Something around 4.5-5%.
Thanks all:-)

[coatesg]

A hoppy American pale ale with Columbus only? 1050 with 30-35IBU bitterness, lots of late hops, US05/WLP001/Nottingham.

Perhaps something like: 90% Lager malt, 10% Munich; 20IBU from a bittering addition at 90min , and another 10IBU from late additions (15m and 5min equal additions say - fiddle around). Then a good ounce at 0min, and an ounce to dry hop with?

[lancsSteve]

You could go for the all-late additioons approach or some first wort hopping and then all late - this seems to give the big aroma/flavour witout going too bitter.

I did evil twin with centennial and amarillo- 5g FWH then all the rest in in last 20 minutes of boil. A friend did a Columbus AIPA with only 15 min, 5 min and knockout/steeping additions and it's great - single malt MO and single hop columbus.

Good article on this approach at: http://www.mrmalty.com/late_hopping.htm

[Deebee]

A hoppy American pale ale with Columbus only? 1050 with 30-35IBU bitterness, lots of late hops, US05/WLP001/Nottingham.

Perhaps something like: 90% Lager malt, 10% Munich; 20IBU from a bittering addition at 90min , and another 10IBU from late additions (15m and 5min equal additions say - fiddle around). Then a good ounce at 0min, and an ounce to dry hop with?

Sounds good.

What about this

5000,00 gm Pale Malt (2 Row) UK (5,9 EBC) Grain 92,59 %
400,00 gm Wheat, Torrified (3,3 EBC) Grain 7,41 %
10,00 gm Columbus (Tomahawk) [16,00 %] (60 min) Hops 16,6 IBU
28,00 gm Columbus (Tomahawk) [16,00 %] (20 min) (Aroma Hop-Steep) Hops -
16,00 gm Columbus (Tomahawk) [16,00 %] (10 min) Hops 9,6 IBU
13,00 gm Columbus (Tomahawk) [16,00 %] (5 min) Hops 4,3 IBU
1 Pkgs safeale 05 Yeast-Ale



Beer Profile

Est Original Gravity: 1,053 SG
Measured Original Gravity: 1,010 SG
Est Final Gravity: 1,014 SG Measured Final Gravity: 1,005 SG
Estimated Alcohol by Vol: 5,09 % Actual Alcohol by Vol: 0,65 %
Bitterness: 30,6 IBU Calories: 90 cal/l
Est Color: 9,7 EBC Color:

[coatesg]

Why have you got the aroma/steep hops going in with 20min of the boil left? They go in after the boil - other than that, it looks OK. I'd mash high-ish by the way - 68C would be my mash temp for this to keep a bit of body in the beer to balance the hops.

[Deebee]

Why have you got the aroma/steep hops going in with 20min of the boil left? They go in after the boil - other than that, it looks OK. I'd mash high-ish by the way - 68C would be my mash temp for this to keep a bit of body in the beer to balance the hops.

thats just how my beersmith works,

i could always add some carapils to the mix for increased body. Don't want to use crystal as i don't have any light stuff at the moment and would like to keep the colour down on this one.

[coatesg]

Strange way of working (but I guess it's reporting 0IBU, so must be right!). Carapils will work fine (it's just a very light crystal malt anyhow) - if you have any munich or vienna, it would probably work OK too (more malty).

[lancsSteve]

Looks good - I'd first wort hop the 60 minute addition rather than waiting for it to hit boiling - seems to help on increasing flavour but decreasing harsh bitterness which seems a good idea for these catty high alpha US hops...

ANd yeah a 0 minute or 80c steep for final addition - should be a good 'un - a little pale crystal or malty vienna/munich wouldn't hurt too

[Deebee]

Looks good - I'd first wort hop the 60 minute addition rather than waiting for it to hit boiling - seems to help on increasing flavour but decreasing harsh bitterness which seems a good idea for these catty high alpha US hops...

ANd yeah a 0 minute or 80c steep for final addition - should be a good 'un - a little pale crystal or malty vienna/munich wouldn't hurt too

The ounce of hops for steep should be ok?
What does Columbus smell/taste like.

Also would the 05 be ok or should i go with something else like nottingham or plain old reliable S-04?

[lancsSteve]

US-05 is the american one so I'd go with that else nottingham - Saf 04 has a more english ale flavour profile...

[LowLife]

The ounce of hops for steep should be ok?
What does Columbus smell/taste like.

Also would the 05 be ok or should i go with something else like nottingham or plain old reliable S-04?

Columbus is another one of the American hops that can be fruity. (more info http://www.brew365.com/hops_columbus.php ) Currently I like to use it with a combination of other hops in my American IPAs (Centennial, Cascade, Citra, etc)
US05 (Chico yeast strain) is the standard over here for American IPAs. High attenuation with a clean flavor profile.