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Re: Hole Advice

Post by beermonsta » Tue Oct 12, 2010 5:43 pm

daveyk wrote:Thanks... that makes sense now.... so what is that connector called?
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Re: Hole Advice

Post by FutureBrewer » Tue Oct 12, 2010 8:12 pm

beermonsta wrote:
daveyk wrote:Thanks... that makes sense now.... so what is that connector called?
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Re: Hole Advice

Post by Tattie bogle » Wed Dec 01, 2010 10:01 pm

Hello,

I've just bought a buffalo boiler and need to do this modification. Just wondered what people think to this tap kit:

http://www.the-home-brew-shop.co.uk/aca ... p_Kit.html

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Re: Hole Advice

Post by jmc » Thu Dec 02, 2010 10:56 am

Hi

Photo of Home Brew Shop tap isn't brilliant as you can't see if there is any thing you can connect a hop strainer onto on the inside of the boiler.

On my buffalo I used this one from ebay
He also sells other AG stuff
(I bought an IC from him too.)

This tap made it easier to connect a hop strainer with an air-tight connection to assist siphon effect.

On my HLT I used a different tap setup.
I added a 90deg bend on outside between boiler and valve.
Valve is pointing down and valve inlet is therefore lower than of an in-line setup. (I'll try to update with picture soon)
**EDITED - pics added **
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I think this helps with the siphon effect.
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Re: Hole Advice

Post by FutureBrewer » Fri Dec 03, 2010 1:45 pm

jmc wrote: you can't see if there is any thing you can connect a hop strainer onto on the inside of the boiler.
+1 to what jmc says... That's why I went with Jubby's suggestions on my tap/connector.

PS - I'm just letting a long tube attached to the hosetail do the siphon bit, but I like the 90 degree elbow idea John!

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Re: Hole Advice

Post by Redbloke » Mon Jan 03, 2011 7:14 pm

jmc wrote:Hi

Photo of Home Brew Shop tap isn't brilliant as you can't see if there is any thing you can connect a hop strainer onto on the inside of the boiler.

On my buffalo I used this one from ebay
He also sells other AG stuff
(I bought an IC from him too.)

This tap made it easier to connect a hop strainer with an air-tight connection to assist siphon effect.

On my HLT I used a different tap setup.
I added a 90deg bend on outside between boiler and valve.
Valve is pointing down and valve inlet is therefore lower than of an in-line setup. (I'll try to update with picture soon)
**EDITED - pics added **
ImageImage
I think this helps with the siphon effect.
ATB
John
I like the look of what you have done there jmc, hope you don't mind if I copy it 8) What hop strainer do you have? The one I have is from Brewpaks, would it screw straight onto the ebay set up you linked?

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Re: Hole Advice

Post by jmc » Wed Jan 05, 2011 1:17 am

Hi Redbloke

The pictures with the 90 deg bend and vertical ballvalve were from my HLT so there is no hop filter inside.
I do have a 15mm connection inside with 90 deg bend and short copper pic up tube, but thats all.
(Pictures to follow.)
For the HLT I used Screwfix items . Part No in brackets.
15 mm tank connector (30234) £3.05 ( I had to file this out with a round file to enable the 15mm copper pipe to fit through.
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15mm full bore ball valve (80413) £4.09
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BTW: The bloke who sells the ball valve / tank connector setup on ebay I mentioned has supplier ref trackermart
trackermart ebay items

He sells some hop filters now that fit his valve set up, so that's one off-the-shelf option.
Hop filters are not the cheapest but look interesting.
Hop Filter

Probably cheaper if you make your own, but not everyone wants the hassle or has the time.

ATB John

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Re: Hole Advice

Post by Redbloke » Wed Jan 05, 2011 8:28 am

Many thanks for the info :beer:

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Re: Hole Advice

Post by Tattie bogle » Wed Jan 05, 2011 9:28 pm

Thanks for the advice jmc. I ended up buying a tap & connector from your ebay link. I think I'll have a go at making my own hop filter, as I have some copper pipe in. I am considering getting a mash tun from there though.

Cheers!

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Re: Hole Advice

Post by jmc » Sat Jan 08, 2011 5:19 pm

I saw this initially on ebay, and think it might be useful for some of you as an option when replacing a boiler tap.

Its designed for narrow boats, but it sounds just the job.
Add a ball-valve and hop strainer and jobs a good-un.

Main web site (jimsengineering.com) - Bulkhead Fittings
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Ebay link

I asked for more info about these and this was the reply
This fitting is a re machined standard tank connector.The thread is 1/2BSP,thats the same thread as a ball valve tail,kitchen tap or radiator tail that screws into the radiator.The bore has been machined out so that a piece of 15mm copper will pass through,it is held in place when the nut and olive are tightenend down. The fitting needs a22mm dia hole to pass through.
... The prime use for these is to pass a pipe through a bulkhead or tan etc where a water/air tight connection is required.There is a drawing at jims engineering.com showing how a similar fitting is installed. The copper tube is supplied so that customers have something to connect to, it could be any length you like depending on site conditions etc,this copper slides right through the fitting.
Hope this helps, Jim


They also do a connector with a hosetail ...

Main web site (jimsengineering.com) - Bulkhead Fittings with hosetail
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John

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Post by Lars » Sat Mar 03, 2012 9:05 am

Great thread guys. Thanks Futurebrewer for directing me here. I'll be using Jubbys 1/2 inch to 15mm male to male to avoid having to modify the boiler hole.
Is there any issue with using stuff like ptfe and compression fittings which aren't copper(brass I think?) with boiling wort? I.e. Are they food safe? Anything going to leach from them? I know they're used in household plumbing but they don't normally see boiling wort??

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L

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Post by Lars » Sat Mar 03, 2012 10:31 am

Another question bout this fitting. Why wouldn't a straight forward 1/2 inch male to 1/2 inch male threaded fitting work? Or does such fitting exist? Why do we want 15mm on inside

Thanks

L

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Re: Hole Advice

Post by FutureBrewer » Sat Mar 03, 2012 11:05 am

Hi Lars,
Lars wrote: I'll be using Jubbys 1/2 inch to 15mm male to male to avoid having to modify the boiler hole.
You'll find that you WILL have to modify the boiler hole... That's the reason why I started this thread. For 'hole advice' :)

Check out the pictures I posted - I widened the hole slightly with a Q-Max cutter so that I could use a tank connector. If you don't, the hole will be too small.
Lars wrote:Why do we want 15mm on inside
Not everyone WANTS to have a 15mm connector on the inside... I did, so that I could attach a hop filter securely (here's the one I made).

There are plenty of ways to replace or fit a tap to a boiler. This is just the method that suited my needs best, for tap and for attaching hop filter.

Hope this helps!

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Hole Advice

Post by Lars » Sat Mar 03, 2012 6:49 pm

Is there no way to fit a ball valve without modifying the existing hole?

Thanks

L

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Re: Hole Advice

Post by Cpt.Frederickson » Thu Sep 20, 2012 11:00 am

Big thank yous to FutureBrewer and Jubby for this thread, I've ordered all my stuff from BES and eBay today so I can convert the tap and (taking inspiration from another of FutureBrewer's posts) build my own double-pronged hop stopper!
The guidance from these threads has been invaluable so far...here's hoping I can put some skills into practice and get a brew on soon! :D
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