IPA from this lot?

[soupdragon]

Hi all

I'm planning my next brew and would love to do an IPA or something similar.....
I've only got pale malt and I have these hops to play with.

30 g Bobek
50 g Target
100 g Chinook
100 g Amarillo

Planning to brew it @ about 4.2%, so I'm not after rocket fuel just a really tasty brew with some nice fruity flavours in it. All suggestions of hop rates and schedule would be welcomed

Cheers Tom

[JammyBStard]

I just kegged this and early signs are it's going to be excellent

You've got the stuff to make somthing similar

Styrian Pale - Single Malt
American Pale Ale


Type: All Grain
Date: 21/11/2010
Batch Size: 23.00 L
Brewer:
Boil Size: 26.66 L Asst Brewer:
Boil Time: 60 min Equipment: Jammys #3
Taste Rating(out of 50): 35.0 Brewhouse Efficiency: 72.00
Taste Notes:

Ingredients

Amount Item Type % or IBU
5.00 kg Pale Malt, Maris Otter (3.0 SRM) Grain 98.04 %
0.10 kg Barley, Flaked (1.7 SRM) Grain 1.96 %
25.00 gm Chinook [13.00 %] (60 min) Hops 34.3 IBU
25.00 gm Aurora - BB - 2010 [8.10 %] (5 min) Hops 3.8 IBU
50.00 gm Bobek - BB - 2010 [5.20 %] (0 min) Hops -
30.00 gm Challenger [7.50 %] (Dry Hop 3 days) Hops -

1.32 items Whirlfloc Tablet (Boil 15.0 min) Misc
1 Pkgs California Ale (White Labs #WLP001) [Starter 35 ml] Yeast-Ale



Beer Profile

Est Original Gravity: 1.050 SG
Measured Original Gravity: 1.051 SG
Est Final Gravity: 1.011 SG Measured Final Gravity: 1.007 SG
Estimated Alcohol by Vol: 5.08 % Actual Alcohol by Vol: 5.73 %
Bitterness: 42.3 IBU Calories: 471 cal/l
Est Color: 4.8 SRM Color: Color

[TC2642]

Hi all

I'm planning my next brew and would love to do an IPA or something similar.....
I've only got pale malt and I have these hops to play with.

30 g Bobek
50 g Target
100 g Chinook
100 g Amarillo

Planning to brew it @ about 4.2%, so I'm not after rocket fuel just a really tasty brew with some nice fruity flavours in it. All suggestions of hop rates and schedule would be welcomed

Cheers Tom

Off the bat, I'd go with Chinook at 60mins (unknown quantity to me though), 100g Amarillo at 30mins and 30g Bobek at flame out. I would leave out the target although maybe at the start with the Chinook for bittering if I wanted a more hoppy IPA. Pale malt with maybe 200gms of wheat malt for 25ltrs. Although I would probably target it for around 5.7%/ Maybe cut back 10-20% for a lower strength ale.

[196osh]

For the hop schedule I would go for:

35g Chinook & Amarillo 15 mins
35g Chinook & Amarillo 0 mins
30g Chinook & Amarillo Dry Hop

If there is any need for an increase in bittering up it to 40-50 IBUs. But that should be enough. Should be very tasty also. Similiar to the IPAs I tend to do.

[soupdragon]

For the hop schedule I would go for:

35g Chinook & Amarillo 15 mins
35g Chinook & Amarillo 0 mins
30g Chinook & Amarillo Dry Hop

If there is any need for an increase in bittering up it to 40-50 IBUs. But that should be enough. Should be very tasty also. Similiar to the IPAs I tend to do.

Hi 196osh

I've seen a few recipes that don't ask for a full 90 boil with at least some hops. Been quite tempted to give it a go. Won't be brewing until Thursday so will keep my options open till then. So you'd go for the full 100g each of Amarilllo and Chinook? Would that not be a it high for a 4.2% brew? Not the bittering but the flavours? I do love the flavour that hops bring to a beer tho and Kipling is one of my favourite beers

Cheers Tom

[JammyBStard]

........100g Amarillo at 30mins................

That's a lot of potent hops!

[TC2642]

........100g Amarillo at 30mins................

That's a lot of potent hops!

Yup my IPA's tend to be around the 60-100 IBU mark.

[196osh]

Hi 196osh

I've seen a few recipes that don't ask for a full 90 boil with at least some hops. Been quite tempted to give it a go. Won't be brewing until Thursday so will keep my options open till then. So you'd go for the full 100g each of Amarilllo and Chinook? Would that not be a it high for a 4.2% brew? Not the bittering but the flavours? I do love the flavour that hops bring to a beer tho and Kipling is one of my favourite beers

Cheers Tom

Not even close imo. It is hard to overdo the flavour hops. The only thing would be the length of time dry hopping. Which I would do for 7days, to avoid imparting any grassy flavours.

I think for a 4-6% beer 200-300g of hops after 20 mins is about right.

It means you can get big flavour and aroma and the same bitterness levels. If you are looking for a beer that displays flavour qualities of hops and dont want it to be too bitter then the only late hopping technique is a great one.

Infact in IPAs nowadays I do not use any early hops.

[196osh]

........100g Amarillo at 30mins................

That's a lot of potent hops!

Yup my IPA's tend to be around the 60-100 IBU mark.

In my opinion 60IBUs would be too bitter for a 4% beer, 100IBUs would be miles too bitter.

A 1:1ish OG:BU ratio is about right for IPAs.

So a 1060 beer would have around 60IBUs.

[mysterio]

One thing I would recommend is a very healthy dose of carapils or caramalt, and mashing pretty warm so you have a bit of a base for those hops. If the beer is to thin, and you have that volume of hops, then it will taste awful.

Chinookarillo late hops though, love it, two of my favourites right there.

[196osh]

Good advice Mysty.

Was actually you who I first saw doing the late hopped beers like that, great idea.

[soupdragon]

Thanks for all the input guys

I've not got any caramalt or carapils at the moment so on reflection I might postpone this one till I get some and do a bit more reading of the other recipes. I'll probably end up going quite heavy on the late hops as suggested, I'll try to get some Nelson Sauvin at the same time as I order the caramalt. So for my up coming brew I'll just throw some crystal in with the pale, use 30g of Target for 90 mins 15g of Bobek for 15 mins then 15g of Bobek at 80c for a standard bitter of the same gravity. I'm looking forward to doing this IPA tho

Cheers Tom

[TC2642]

Yup my IPA's tend to be around the 60-100 IBU mark.

In my opinion 60IBUs would be too bitter for a 4% beer, 100IBUs would be miles too bitter.

A 1:1ish OG:BU ratio is about right for IPAs.

So a 1060 beer would have around 60IBUs.

That does depend on my range, I don't really class anything below 5% as an IPA, I usually make around the 6-8% mark for mine and I do like them hoppy. Saying that my mate who brews professionally will usually go with 90IBU's for any 4% pale beer that he makes.

Each to their own.