22/05/11 - Step-mash/decoction Weizen

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22/05/11 - Step-mash/decoction Weizen

Post by coatesg » Sun May 22, 2011 3:07 pm

Brewing this one as I type (sparging) - something completely new in terms of the step mash and the decoction.

2.7kg Lager malt
4kg Wheat malt

H. Mittelfruh to 14IBU
Target: 1050 (30L ish)
Yeast: WLP300 at 17C

Mash schedule:

43C 15min (Ferulic acid rest)
55C 20min (Protein rest)
68C 45min (Saccarification rest)
Pull a thick decoction and boil for 20min and return to tun for mash out.

It's gone pretty well so far - the mashing was busy but OK, but I landed up with a very thin mash by the end of it all. Didn't scorch the decoction I don't think, but ther sparge looks like I'm going to have fairly low efficiency, and probably a long boil to bring it back to target gravity (but that's OK, as it should up the melanoidins again).

Right - just coming to end of sparge.

coatesg

Re: 22/05/11 - Step-mash/decoction Weizen

Post by coatesg » Sun May 22, 2011 3:12 pm

In fact, efficiency OK! 40L in boiler at 1042 => 33L at 1050. :D

coatesg

Re: 22/05/11 - Step-mash/decoction Weizen

Post by coatesg » Sun May 22, 2011 7:20 pm

That all went pretty well I think. Got beer in fermenter at 1048 - was a little low on mittelfruh (had 52g) so it'll be about 12ibu (tinseth) instead of 14, but that's fine. New hop strainer and pump worked beautifully for the first time, so I think I have it cracked. In the fridge at 17C to let the yeast have their fun :)

Scotty

Re: 22/05/11 - Step-mash/decoction Weizen

Post by Scotty » Mon May 23, 2011 10:04 am

sounds nice Graeme. How do you control your fermentation temperature?

coatesg

Re: 22/05/11 - Step-mash/decoction Weizen

Post by coatesg » Mon May 23, 2011 10:27 am

Scotty Mc wrote:sounds nice Graeme. How do you control your fermentation temperature?
I have a larder style fridge with an ATC-800 controlling it and a light bulb in the bottom of it (for heating). The probe sticks onto the side of the FV.

leedsbrew

Re: 22/05/11 - Step-mash/decoction Weizen

Post by leedsbrew » Mon May 23, 2011 12:20 pm

Nice one G!

I did my 1st step mashed Weiss the other day! Have just got back from Bruges today so will jace to have a taste then bottle it!

Scotty

Re: 22/05/11 - Step-mash/decoction Weizen

Post by Scotty » Mon May 23, 2011 3:27 pm

coatesg wrote:
Scotty Mc wrote:sounds nice Graeme. How do you control your fermentation temperature?
I have a larder style fridge with an ATC-800 controlling it and a light bulb in the bottom of it (for heating). The probe sticks onto the side of the FV.
Do you stick the probe to the side of the FV so it's touching the vessel?

I have the same set up and usually just stick the probe to the side of the fridge wall, but I guess I would get a better reading if I do as you.

coatesg

Re: 22/05/11 - Step-mash/decoction Weizen

Post by coatesg » Mon May 23, 2011 3:37 pm

Yup - just stick it on the side of the fermenter with tape. It's probably not quite the same temp, but it won't be far off (and it's easier than sanitising it and dropping it into the beer itself).

sllimeel

Re: 22/05/11 - Step-mash/decoction Weizen

Post by sllimeel » Mon May 23, 2011 4:50 pm

coatesg wrote:Yup - just stick it on the side of the fermenter with tape. It's probably not quite the same temp, but it won't be far off (and it's easier than sanitising it and dropping it into the beer itself).
I do the same but put some bubble wrap over the probe so no drop in temp when opening the fridge door, more so in winter.

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Re: 22/05/11 - Step-mash/decoction Weizen

Post by WishboneBrewery » Mon May 23, 2011 8:27 pm

Within the month I'll brew the same-ish :) are you bottling?

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Re: 22/05/11 - Step-mash/decoction Weizen

Post by coatesg » Mon May 23, 2011 8:46 pm

One corny, and the rest into bottles.

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Re: 22/05/11 - Step-mash/decoction Weizen

Post by WishboneBrewery » Mon May 23, 2011 9:18 pm

Fancy a bottle swap at some point?

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Re: 22/05/11 - Step-mash/decoction Weizen

Post by coatesg » Mon May 23, 2011 9:22 pm

Sounds good! Hoping to get some interesting brews on in the summer months - should have a few bottles floating around!

coatesg

Re: 22/05/11 - Step-mash/decoction Weizen

Post by coatesg » Tue Jun 07, 2011 11:47 am

Racked and bottled this last night - 1009 finishing gravity which is a little on the dry side (and a little surprise given the decoction) but taste is great - nice clove phenols, with banana and also a little surprisingly, some lemony flavours. Quite a malt presence in the nose too.

Could have done with a touch less hops I think - I have a feeling I'm either getting higher utilisation than I expect, or I stuffed up the calculations and put too many in. Either way, when carbonated, I reckon this is going to be a lovely refreshing beer.

Scotty

Re: 22/05/11 - Step-mash/decoction Weizen

Post by Scotty » Tue Jun 07, 2011 2:41 pm

How much priming sugar did you use per bottle?

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