Tea and Lemon - Why

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Tea and Lemon - Why

Post by quixoticgeek » Wed Jun 29, 2011 7:28 pm

Inspired by the Saxon Honey Ale recipe posted on this forum, I tracked down the book the recipe had come from. Looking at all the recipes they list adding a tablespoon of strong black tea, and some lemon juice. What purpose do these additions serve?

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Re: Tea and Lemon - Why

Post by Beer O'Clock » Wed Jun 29, 2011 7:36 pm

Additional simpathetic flavours.................. at a guess :shock:
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Re: Tea and Lemon - Why

Post by quixoticgeek » Wed Jun 29, 2011 7:44 pm

Beer O'Clock wrote:Additional simpathetic flavours.................. at a guess :shock:
This is the thing, I am trying to work out if it is a flavour thing, or about the acidity/tannins that these provide...

J

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Re: Tea and Lemon - Why

Post by EliteEvil » Wed Jun 29, 2011 8:34 pm

I have lemon in my tea at work sometimes, stops the limescale sticking so the cup so it looks clean and your boss doesn't give you a bollocking.

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Re: Tea and Lemon - Why

Post by Dennis King » Wed Jun 29, 2011 8:39 pm

Nice drink lemon tea, try it.

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Re: Tea and Lemon - Why

Post by quixoticgeek » Wed Jun 29, 2011 8:40 pm

EliteEvil wrote:I have lemon in my tea at work sometimes, stops the limescale sticking so the cup so it looks clean and your boss doesn't give you a bollocking.
Ok, that reply made me laugh.

I was of course meaning putting lemon and tea in beer.

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Re: Tea and Lemon - Why

Post by dave-o » Thu Jun 30, 2011 10:48 am

IIRC saxon ale doesn't use hops. I would think the tea is there for bitterness/flavour and the lemon for a bit of bite.

I'm pretty sure we didn't have tea in Saxon times though!

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Re: Tea and Lemon - Why

Post by quixoticgeek » Thu Jun 30, 2011 1:25 pm

dave-o wrote:IIRC saxon ale doesn't use hops. I would think the tea is there for bitterness/flavour and the lemon for a bit of bite.

I'm pretty sure we didn't have tea in Saxon times though!
And this is why I ask, they didn't really have lemons either. I am trying to work out how to make this recipe more authentically. Once I understand the purpose of those ingredients, I can work out alternatives...

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Re: Tea and Lemon - Why

Post by oldbloke » Thu Jun 30, 2011 2:44 pm

OK, the lemon's for acid rather than flavour, helps the pH for the yeast, but does also help the flavour a bit. Any authentic source of acid... sharp crab apple maybe?
For tannin you might try oak leaves or something.
I think at one time they used rue, before hops arrived.

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Re: Tea and Lemon - Why

Post by Paddy Bubbles » Thu Jun 30, 2011 4:15 pm

People who brew Turbo Cider add tea and raisins to provide some tannins to balance out the sweetness. Could be for the same reason.

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Re: Tea and Lemon - Why

Post by quixoticgeek » Thu Jun 30, 2011 4:57 pm

oldbloke wrote:OK, the lemon's for acid rather than flavour, helps the pH for the yeast, but does also help the flavour a bit. Any authentic source of acid... sharp crab apple maybe?
For tannin you might try oak leaves or something.
I think at one time they used rue, before hops arrived.
That sounds sensible, I have some Rue so I might try that, I think I may have a play with oak leaves as a source of tannin. Time to experiment.

J

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