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[iandiggs]

Hello All. I have:

3500g Maris Otter
500g Amber Malt
500g Crystal malt
200g wheat malt
500g black malt

2 x 100g nelson Sauvin hops

Whitelab English ale yeast WLP005

Would anybody have suggestions on how i could use the ingredients - (not necessarily all of the malt together of course-some of them or bit of some of them)
i started off thinking about doing a kentish ale but sort of went a bit astray with the ingredients.
Your advice would be greatly appreciated......

[staplefordbill]

You're not going to get a Kentish ale with Nelson Sauvin. For a Kentish you'd want English hops - Goldings, Fuggles, Challenger, Target etc. NS gives a bitter, citrusy taste to beer. Think Thornbridge Kipling. In fact a Kipling variety may be a good idea. You could make a 23l brew with the Maris Otter, all the wheat malt and 200g of the crystal. Not calculated the exact amount of hops, but 20% at the beginning of a 60 minute boil, 20% at 30 minutes then 60% at flameout. This will give you an IBU of 43 and lots of aroma. Here's the recipe I made. You can tinker with the quantities if you download BrewMate. Not sure how your yeast would handle the recipe - might strip out some of the hoppiness.

Thornbridge Kipling
Extra Special/Strong Bitter (English Pale Ale)

Recipe Specs
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Batch Size (L): 25.0
Total Grain (kg): 4.772
Total Hops (g): 100.00
Original Gravity (OG): 1.050 (°P): 12.4
Final Gravity (FG): 1.010 (°P): 2.6
Alcohol by Volume (ABV): 5.24 %
Colour (SRM): 3.7 (EBC): 7.3
Bitterness (IBU): 43.1 (Average)
Brewhouse Efficiency (%): 85
Boil Time (Minutes): 60

Grain Bill
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4.056 kg Pale Malt (85%)
0.358 kg Munich I (7.5%)
0.358 kg Torrified Wheat (7.5%)

Hop Bill
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20.0 g Nelson Sauvin Leaf (12.6% Alpha) @ 60 Minutes (Boil) (0.8 g/L)
20.0 g Nelson Sauvin Leaf (12.6% Alpha) @ 30 Minutes (Boil) (0.8 g/L)
60.0 g Nelson Sauvin Leaf (12.6% Alpha) @ 0 Minutes (Boil) (2.4 g/L)

Misc Bill
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Single step Infusion at 65°C for 90 Minutes.
Fermented at 18°C with Safale US-05


Recipe Generated with BrewMate

[Mattb]

In the time it's taken me to have a bit of a tap into Beer Alchemy, staplefordbill has suggested almost exactly the same hop schedule as I was going to suggest.

This is what I came up with, although it's right of the top of my head:

3500g Pale Malt
400g Amber Malt
200g Wheat Malt
20g Black Malt

Mash for 90 mins @ 66C

30L boil, for 90 mins

Hops:
20g Nelson Sauvin, 90 mins
20g Nelson Sauvin, 20 mins
60g Nelson Sauvin, at end of boil.

OG 1.038
IBU 45.6
Colour: 14.2 EBC

[lancsSteve]

Personally I'd leave out the amber malt as a hop-forward beer can be great young but amber malt seems to need a long time to mellow out and become nice. Adding some crystal would take you more towards american amber ale, leaving it out would be more hoppy pale ale.

[iandiggs]

Thanks very much for your suggestions!

[dave-o]

Using just what you've got, i'd use:

(23l)
All the pale
All the wheat
Half the crystal

20g Nelson full boil
40g nelson 10 mins
40g nelson flameout

And get a sachet of S05 or Notts - no point in wasting an unsuitable liquid yeast on this IMO.

You'll get a light (3.8 - 4%), easy-drinking summer ale with loads of flavour