Coopers (Euro) Green Neck Lager

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Coopers (Euro) Green Neck Lager

Post by Monkeybrew » Tue Jan 24, 2012 9:56 pm

As I have run out of homebrew lager, and only have 6 cans of Carling :| in the shed, I knocked up some Coopers this arvo!

Green Neck Lager

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1.7kg Coopers European Lager
Coopers Kit Lager Yeast
500g of Extra Light DME
500g of Cooper Brew Enhancer 1
Brewlength - 21L
OG - 1.040 @ 24C (temp corrected to 1.041)

http://www.coopers.com.au/the-brewers-g ... neck-lager

I followed the recipe instructions and pitched the yeast into 24C wort, and will bring the temperature down to 15C over the next 24 hours in my Brewfridge :D

Should be nice for when the spring arrives!
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Conditioning:
AG#41 - Vienna Lager - 5.6%
AG#42 - Heritage Double Ale - 10.5%

On Tap:
AG#44 - Harvest ESB - 5.4%
AG#45 - Amarillo Gold APA - 5.2%

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Re: Coopers (Euro) Green Neck Lager

Post by fatboylard » Tue Jan 24, 2012 10:35 pm

That's a nice kit is that one!

One thing confused me though, fella in the brew shop said that Coopers had made the euro lager to taste like carlsberg - doesn't taste a bit like stale piss to me.

Guess I must've made it wrong :oops:

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Re: Coopers (Euro) Green Neck Lager

Post by poo hed » Tue Jan 24, 2012 11:55 pm

i would have thought it would be based on grolsch really,

i just put a coopers pilsner (1.050) on this weekend with added hops, pitched at 20 and temperature dropped pretty rapidly to about 12, big krausen so no problems there.

hope it doesn't take 3 weeks to finish, the diacetyl rest is a bit confusing ? should i do the rest when it's at about 1.015 ? or a bit higher :?

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Re: Coopers (Euro) Green Neck Lager

Post by Monkeybrew » Wed Jan 25, 2012 7:52 am

poo hed wrote:i would have thought it would be based on grolsch really,

i just put a coopers pilsner (1.050) on this weekend with added hops, pitched at 20 and temperature dropped pretty rapidly to about 12, big krausen so no problems there.

hope it doesn't take 3 weeks to finish, the diacetyl rest is a bit confusing ? should i do the rest when it's at about 1.015 ? or a bit higher :?
Wow 1.050, what fermentables did you use?

I think that the diacetyl rest is carried out at the end of primary fermentation, and raising the wort temperature by a few degrees makes the yeast more active, thus encouraging it to eat up the diacetyl :boff:

I am quite interested in trying the Pilsener kit later in the year, so will be interested in your results. How are you controlling your temperature?

MB
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Conditioning:
AG#41 - Vienna Lager - 5.6%
AG#42 - Heritage Double Ale - 10.5%

On Tap:
AG#44 - Harvest ESB - 5.4%
AG#45 - Amarillo Gold APA - 5.2%

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Re: Coopers (Euro) Green Neck Lager

Post by poo hed » Wed Jan 25, 2012 12:07 pm

Monkeybrew wrote: Wow 1.050, what fermentables did you use?

I think that the diacetyl rest is carried out at the end of primary fermentation, and raising the wort temperature by a few degrees makes the yeast more active, thus encouraging it to eat up the diacetyl :boff:

I am quite interested in trying the Pilsener kit later in the year, so will be interested in your results. How are you controlling your temperature?

MB
i thought the rest had to be done before fermentation was complete ?, i just don't know for how many days, and how low the gravity should be :?

i used 900g dme, 600g brewers sugar and 90g of a caramel malt brewed to 21l (stuck to the same ratio that coopers advised, just upped the grammages), trying not to get it too malty.

chucked a load of saaz hops in it to get the ibu up to 39, i think the can on it's own brewed to 21 would only have 20ibu, i think pilsners usually go up to 45 :?

it's just in the attic, my house has poor insulation and the temperatures at the moment in there over the last week have gone from 10-15, the central heating being on and off doesn't make too big a difference "fortunately".

not going to "lager", just bottle it and keep as cold as possible, ambient temperature will have probably gone up a bit and i don't want to mess about with frozen 2l bottles.

.... it could well taste of shite at the end, going to have to wait to some time in march to find out!

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Re: Coopers (Euro) Green Neck Lager

Post by Monkeybrew » Thu Jan 26, 2012 9:00 am

Checked on my Euro brew this morning and it has a half inch of Krausen, so I've dropped my fridge temp from 18C to 15C and let it do its thing.
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Conditioning:
AG#41 - Vienna Lager - 5.6%
AG#42 - Heritage Double Ale - 10.5%

On Tap:
AG#44 - Harvest ESB - 5.4%
AG#45 - Amarillo Gold APA - 5.2%

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Re: Coopers (Euro) Green Neck Lager

Post by cellone » Thu Jan 26, 2012 11:13 am

poo hed wrote: i thought the rest had to be done before fermentation was complete ?, i just don't know for how many days, and how low the gravity should be :?

i used 900g dme, 600g brewers sugar and 90g of a caramel malt brewed to 21l (stuck to the same ratio that coopers advised, just upped the grammages), trying not to get it too malty.

chucked a load of saaz hops in it to get the ibu up to 39, i think the can on it's own brewed to 21 would only have 20ibu, i think pilsners usually go up to 45 :?

it's just in the attic, my house has poor insulation and the temperatures at the moment in there over the last week have gone from 10-15, the central heating being on and off doesn't make too big a difference "fortunately".

not going to "lager", just bottle it and keep as cold as possible, ambient temperature will have probably gone up a bit and i don't want to mess about with frozen 2l bottles.

.... it could well taste of shite at the end, going to have to wait to some time in march to find out!
What flavour will the caramel malt give to the beer ( caramel #-o )?

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Re: Coopers (Euro) Green Neck Lager

Post by cellone » Thu Jan 26, 2012 11:20 am

Monkeybrew wrote: I think that the diacetyl rest is carried out at the end of primary fermentation, and raising the wort temperature by a few degrees makes the yeast more active, thus encouraging it to eat up the diacetyl :boff:
MB
I have been doing it after I've racked into a barrel for lagering. Cheers for that info, will do in the primary in future.

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Re: Coopers (Euro) Green Neck Lager

Post by poo hed » Thu Jan 26, 2012 7:19 pm

cellone wrote: What flavour will the caramel malt give to the beer ( caramel #-o )?
hehe, it's just the same as crystal malt, although the one i went for is supposed to impart more of "biscuity" then a "sweet" taste, whatever that means (BS probably), god knows! it only accounts for 2% of the fermentables, so i doubt i will be able to taste it, needed some sugars when i boiled the hops though so hey ho.

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Re: Coopers (Euro) Green Neck Lager

Post by AceMcAce » Sun Jan 29, 2012 6:31 pm

I'm just about to shove a Euro Lager on. I've opted for 1kg of Light malt extract, and 500g of dextrose, I'll let you know the OG later on this evening. Think I'll brew it to about 21L.
Anybody want to guess what it's going to turn out at?
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Re: Coopers (Euro) Green Neck Lager

Post by Monkeybrew » Sun Jan 29, 2012 6:58 pm

1.050 ish.
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Conditioning:
AG#41 - Vienna Lager - 5.6%
AG#42 - Heritage Double Ale - 10.5%

On Tap:
AG#44 - Harvest ESB - 5.4%
AG#45 - Amarillo Gold APA - 5.2%

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Re: Coopers (Euro) Green Neck Lager

Post by AceMcAce » Sun Jan 29, 2012 10:51 pm

You were spot on!
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Re: Coopers (Euro) Green Neck Lager

Post by Monkeybrew » Sun Jan 29, 2012 11:55 pm

AceMcAce wrote:You were spot on!
Lucky guess :mrgreen:
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Conditioning:
AG#41 - Vienna Lager - 5.6%
AG#42 - Heritage Double Ale - 10.5%

On Tap:
AG#44 - Harvest ESB - 5.4%
AG#45 - Amarillo Gold APA - 5.2%

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Re: Coopers (Euro) Green Neck Lager

Post by Uncle Joshua » Mon Jan 30, 2012 12:04 am

I made this kit on the 20th of August 2011. I don't drink lager so didn't drink any put it seemed to take until Christmas to come good.

Mine was done with 1KG BKE.

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Re: Coopers (Euro) Green Neck Lager

Post by AceMcAce » Mon Jan 30, 2012 12:36 am

They do say to leave it for 12 weeks for it to turn tasty. What's another 4 when you've already waited 12?
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