what size boiler??

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mrmojorisin

Re: what size boiler??

Post by mrmojorisin » Sun Apr 08, 2012 7:19 pm

No need to get uppity about it.

You don't want options thn you crack on.

marvel1975

Re: what size boiler??

Post by marvel1975 » Sun Apr 08, 2012 7:41 pm

mrmojorisin wrote:No need to get uppity about it.

You don't want options thn you crack on.
i wasnt getting uppity mate just saying i understand its cheaper but getting it all would be hard.

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Re: what size boiler??

Post by Pinto » Tue Apr 10, 2012 8:08 am

I'd just make one small point to ponder as a guy just about to take the step into extract/BIAB/All grain (one day)

Doing research, I've priced out a 32l Stainless stock pot, a new gas ring + tube and reg, 19kg propane cylinder and ALL the ingredients (malts, hops, adjuncts) for making my first planned extract brew at £164.40; divide that by the brew length of 40 pints (23l)

164.40/40 = £4.11/pint

Now I'd put the following to you. Assuming that my reach doesn't exceed my grasp and the gods are smiling - 40 pints of sweet nectar now reside in my keg for consumption for just 10-25p MORE than i'd have paid for the same pint in my local pub. - and that includes the ENTIRE setup in that cost !

And I can brew it again. and again. and again. Assuming a rebrew cost of approx £25 per batch = £0.63 / Pint......

Its all about investment :)
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Re: what size boiler??

Post by marvel1975 » Tue Apr 10, 2012 11:31 am

Is that the set up you have,or are going to get?i have a gas bottle just got to get burner and pan,going to go no sparge as got told it tastes better,but you use more grain,lots of options out there.

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Re: what size boiler??

Post by Pinto » Tue Apr 10, 2012 2:12 pm

marvel1975 wrote:Is that the set up you have,or are going to get?i have a gas bottle just got to get burner and pan,going to go no sparge as got told it tastes better,but you use more grain,lots of options out there.
If it helps...Pan and Gas ring. Remember the ring will also need a reg, gas hose and gas cylinder to be costed in. 50l pan is about £12 more too


As im stepping up from kit brewing, I have most things on the fermentation side but nothing on the mash/extract side so thats what I'll NEED to get going. My costs are slightly lower as being a builder, I already have the gas ring for my tar pot; ingredients wise, I dont have a hop to my name and as im extract brewing, im slave to the rather expensive DME/LME scam - thats £20 a batch before i've even started.

Point im making is my first brew should be the only expensive one - and as I already posess certain more expensive items, then im aiming to make brew #1 cost less than buying pint by pint from the pub - in which case I consider it a win :) The costing I put forward were based on me having nothing to work with, and even then came in only just a little more expensive than bar prices

Gotta love the homebrew :D
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Re: what size boiler??

Post by marvel1975 » Tue Apr 10, 2012 3:50 pm

Will get that burner ,very cheap but i think i would want a tap and hop strainer on the pan ,found one for 62£ ,and yep gotta love the home brew lol :-)

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Re: what size boiler??

Post by jonnyt » Tue Apr 10, 2012 4:29 pm

£7 60L Mango Chutney Container
£6 Argos Kettle
£3 Voil
£6 38mm hole saw

£22 all in and can make 35L batches if required

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Re: what size boiler??

Post by Pinto » Tue Apr 10, 2012 9:30 pm

marvel1975 wrote:Will get that burner ,very cheap but i think i would want a tap and hop strainer on the pan ,found one for 62£ ,and yep gotta love the home brew lol :-)
About the same as me buying the bits and drilling a hole :lol: and yep, thats the best price i've come across for an 8kw burner.
jonnyt wrote:£7 60L Mango Chutney Container
£6 Argos Kettle
£3 Voil
£6 38mm hole saw

£22 all in and can make 35L batches if required
Thats where I plan to be for my all grain setup - im going for a HDPE Mash tun but i like the bling bling steel boiler and lauter tun (and an HDPE mango chutney drum fares rather badly on a gas ring :lol: )

I'd also add the best available costings put LPG at 7.6p/kWh and electricity at 14.5p/kWh so for me gas ticks all the boxes - especially the "half the cost" one ;)
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DJ(2) : N'otin....
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Conditioning : Nowt
In the bottle : Cinnamonator TC, Apple Boost Cider, Apple & Strawberry Cider
Planning : AG #5 - Galaxy Pale (re-brew) / #6 - Alco-Brau (Special Brew Clone) / #7 Something belgian...
Projects : Mini-brew (12l brew length kit) nearly ready :D

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