bbq beer
Im expecting something in the range you've said 1040-1050 i'd be happy with anything in there.
Yeah might have overdone it on the bittering hops, also i forgot i am going to be doing this with slurp the apprentice's cascades which are labelled up as 6.8 %
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Might change that hopping schedule to
30g for 60 mins
15g for 10 mins
15g at flameout
15g dryhop
Yeah might have overdone it on the bittering hops, also i forgot i am going to be doing this with slurp the apprentice's cascades which are labelled up as 6.8 %

Might change that hopping schedule to
30g for 60 mins
15g for 10 mins
15g at flameout
15g dryhop
Just an idea, but you could try adding all your hops at 15 minutes. Most of the bitterness is extracted in the first 20 minutes of the boil and you've got a lot of hops to play with that you don't really need to economise. Something like 80 grams at 15 minutes would give you 20 IBUs and a nice Cascade flavour and aroma. You could always steep more at the end or dry hop. Certainly the first hop schedule you posted wouldn't make for an easy drinking hot weather beer (although it certainly wouldn't be bad).
Last edited by mysterio on Sun Apr 22, 2007 5:10 pm, edited 1 time in total.
Yeah, usually I aim for getting half of the bitterness from 15minute or steeping hop additions and half from 60 minutes. I usually use the likes of Goldings, Styrians, Williamette where the flavour isn't too intense anyway, but you still get a good hoppy flavour without the bitterness.
I've still got a full kilo of slurp's cascades so I'll probably be trying some batches where I just throw them all in at 15mins. I bet it would make a good beer and it's a good experiment too.
I've still got a full kilo of slurp's cascades so I'll probably be trying some batches where I just throw them all in at 15mins. I bet it would make a good beer and it's a good experiment too.
I was under the impression that a 11/2 hr boil was required to extract the full bittering qualities of a hop, but this drove off much of the flavour and aroma oils which are replaced in the late hop additions, hops added 15 min from the end contribute little to bitterness!mysterio wrote: Most of the bitterness is extracted in the first 20 minutes of the boil
If most of the bitterness is extracted in 20 mins why boil for longer?
Not so, you extract a surprisingly high amount of bitterness in 15 minutes, around 50% of what you'd get from a full 90 minute boil - it's not a linear relationship. You're right that you retain a lot of the flavour and aroma qualities when only boiling for 15 minutes though.Scooby wrote:hops added 15 min from the end contribute little to bitterness!
Just as a matter of economy, you want to extract as much bittering from a small as possible amount of hops. The relationship of boiling time to bittering extraction starts to level out around 90 minutes. This is more true on a commercial scale, but not so much of a concern on a homebrew scale where small amounts of hops are being used. Also, putting all of your hops in around 15 is going to retain a LOT of flavour and aroma, not always desirable in a beer such as a Scottish ale or Munich lager.If most of the bitterness is extracted in 20 mins why boil for longer?
cooked the above recipe up with a single hop addition of 80g at 15 mins as suggested by mysterio.
Was a borderline disaster from start to finish.
Never got the grain bed to filter correctly (no matter how long i volarufed for), might be the lager malt which i picked up from a local micro which milled it finer than H&G.
Tried fly sparging again (it was ok, but i just couldn't balance the system and it was a case of let the water build up, run off (cloudy wort
), let the water build up etc (back to batch sparging for me i think).
Got it boiling nice and quick and there was more protein break than i have ever seen (cause of the cloudy runnings). Forgot to add the protofloc the one bleeding time i probably need it
.
The immersion chiller which is to small for the 10 gallon bucket took an eternity to chill the boiled wort and i was constantly having to go and swish it around etc.
The hop strainer blocked with a measly 80g of loose hops
After much areseing about and lots of loss to the hops/stuck strainer i got just over 4 gallons at 1056
, stronger than i had been expecting.
Had to chuck the yeast into the wort while it was about 28C, hope it's cooled sufficently before the yeast hydrate and take off, the last think i need is a bunch of funky off flavours in a light coloured/swamp beer.
Checked my gravity trial jar this morning, normally it would have seperated into clear wort and big chunks of gunk plastered to the bottom, not this time its like pond water
.
This is my worst AG session by a mile, felt as much fun as

Was a borderline disaster from start to finish.
Never got the grain bed to filter correctly (no matter how long i volarufed for), might be the lager malt which i picked up from a local micro which milled it finer than H&G.
Tried fly sparging again (it was ok, but i just couldn't balance the system and it was a case of let the water build up, run off (cloudy wort

Got it boiling nice and quick and there was more protein break than i have ever seen (cause of the cloudy runnings). Forgot to add the protofloc the one bleeding time i probably need it

The immersion chiller which is to small for the 10 gallon bucket took an eternity to chill the boiled wort and i was constantly having to go and swish it around etc.
The hop strainer blocked with a measly 80g of loose hops

After much areseing about and lots of loss to the hops/stuck strainer i got just over 4 gallons at 1056

Had to chuck the yeast into the wort while it was about 28C, hope it's cooled sufficently before the yeast hydrate and take off, the last think i need is a bunch of funky off flavours in a light coloured/swamp beer.
Checked my gravity trial jar this morning, normally it would have seperated into clear wort and big chunks of gunk plastered to the bottom, not this time its like pond water

This is my worst AG session by a mile, felt as much fun as
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Last edited by delboy on Tue Apr 24, 2007 11:11 am, edited 1 time in total.