MARMITE THERMOS 70 LITRES ?

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MARMITE THERMOS 70 LITRES ?

Post by DC » Sun Jun 10, 2012 1:45 pm

Hi all, I am looking at buying a new mashtun and a few people have mentioned the Marmite Thermos pots on the French Ebay
http://cgi.ebay.fr/MARMITE-THERMOS-CAPA ... 519fa3c13b

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Whilst looking at them on Ebay I noticed that the 70L pots have a tap already fitted 8) does anyone have one of these 70 litre pots with a tap pre-fitted ? just wondering if its possible to remove the supplied tap and swap it with a ball valve? Just I dont think my DIY skills are up to Vossy's standards to be able to convert a 50L without a tap into a bottom draining mashtun :oops: I think I would be able to manage to make a false bottom to fit to a 70L pot if its possible to swap the taps :wink:
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Re: MARMITE THERMOS 70 LITRES ?

Post by barneey » Sun Jun 10, 2012 3:51 pm

I`ve made a 38ltr MT using the copper manifold method and the existing tap hole before, heres a pic of the manifold Image
and the link to an old thread viewtopic.php?f=6&t=43651&p=460355#p460355

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MARMITE THERMOS 70 LITRES ?

Post by dave.wilton » Sun Jun 10, 2012 6:16 pm

I have a 38L one and my DIY skills are not great either. Just be warned that the tap is not BSP it is metric. I couldn't find anything to adapt the tube that fits the pot to fit a BSP ball valve and the same on the other side for the manifold. In the end a friend bailed me out and enlarged the hole to make it BSP. Before buying I'd investigate and try and find a solution from some of the DIY experts here

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Re: MARMITE THERMOS 70 LITRES ?

Post by DC » Sun Jun 10, 2012 8:02 pm

Hi Dave.wilton thanks for the heads up regarding the size of the tap fitting/hole size, I found this thread on another forum http://www.brewuk.co.uk/forum/topic/new ... ice-needed and as far as I can see it looks like a ball valve would fit? I am assuming there the same Thermo pots ? Got my 40th Birthday coming up next month so I might ask for a shiny pot for my birthday ! Might see if I can get it engraved as its for my 40th lol

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Re: MARMITE THERMOS 70 LITRES ?

Post by barneey » Sun Jun 10, 2012 8:07 pm

They say a picture is worth a thousand words, 1/2 inch + 3/8 fittings is all you require.

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Re: MARMITE THERMOS 70 LITRES ?

Post by DC » Sun Jun 10, 2012 8:57 pm

Hi Barneey, Your right a picture does indeed say a thousand words =D> just wondering what the threaded fitting is on the far left of the 3rd pic in your last post that goes into the part that I am assuming goes between the inner & outer skins of the pot and the ball valve screws onto? Is there any chance you could list the parts in the pics? otherwise I fear I might have to print the pics off and take them to screwfix or local plumbing place and say oi mate have you got any of these? :oops: :oops:

Deffo going to start dropping hints for birthday presents now [-o<

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Re: MARMITE THERMOS 70 LITRES ?

Post by barneey » Sun Jun 10, 2012 9:11 pm

The parts I used tonight were only some spare bits I had in my "spares box" just wanted to give you an idea of the procedure.

Basically the part highlighted by your red square is a 1/2" nipple used to connect the body of the tap and ballvalve (assuming the ballvalve has a female end), (then from Left to Right) Tap Socket+Washer+Washer all supplied with the Thermo Pot, the next thing you need is a "3/8 to EDIT 15mm copper connector" (might come in two parts), the last piece is a "cross over piece".

My best advice would be to visit a plumbers merchant once you have the thermo pot, take along the tap and see what works with the fittings they have.

The original copper manifold I had made, was given away to "Captain Dave" look up members, he is also from the Newcastle area so it might be worth giving him a Message to arrange a local meet to see the actual artical.

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Re: MARMITE THERMOS 70 LITRES ?

Post by DC » Sun Jun 10, 2012 9:18 pm

Hi Barney, Thanks for the swift reply :wink: I will look up Captain Dave at some point to see if he still has the copper manifold [-o< just about to draft an email to the folks that sell the thermo pots on French Ebay to get a price for a 70L pot with tap inc p&p to the UK fingers crossed its not too expensive [-o<

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FV No 1: Nowt
FV No 2: Nowt
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Pressure Barrel No 1: Nowt
Conditioning: Nowt
Drinking: Nowt
Planning:
Yeast Bank: SafAle S04, Youngs Cider Yeast.
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MARMITE THERMOS 70 LITRES ?

Post by dave.wilton » Sun Jun 10, 2012 10:24 pm

Yeah I took the stuff in to a plumbers but between my lack of knowledge of plumbing and their lack of knowledge of English we didn't get anywhere. I hate being in London sometimes, it wasn't like I could jump in the car and go somewhere else.

Looks like barney has sorted you out. I just didn't want you to have the same hassle I did... carrying a 38L pot all the way to the end of the central line to get someone to drill it!

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Re: MARMITE THERMOS 70 LITRES ?

Post by DC » Fri Jun 15, 2012 7:58 pm

Hi all, Just been to see a fellow Jims member (carpet19) to see his 70L mashtun as I am looking to buy one for a mashtun conversion ! How Bloody Big are those things !! Couldn't believe the size of the 70L thermopots ! Might need to redesign my brewing stand to fit a 70L pot on it

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Re: MARMITE THERMOS 70 LITRES ?

Post by DC » Tue Jun 19, 2012 6:27 am

Hi all, Well I finally did it and made the switch to Shiny ! Just ordered a 70L Thermopot from EBay France to the tune of £94.50 inc p&p ! All paid up through PayPal just got to wait for it to arrive ! Then it will be onto BES to order one of those nice Shiny 3 parts ball valves, then dismantle old mashtun and reuse manifold ! Might have to extend brewing stand to fit new Thermopot though there Huge !!

Cheers DC
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FV No 4: Nowt
Pressure Barrel No 1: Nowt
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Planning:
Yeast Bank: SafAle S04, Youngs Cider Yeast.
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Re: MARMITE THERMOS 70 LITRES ?

Post by stu-le-brew » Tue Jun 19, 2012 7:35 am

DC wrote:Hi all, Well I finally did it and made the switch to Shiny ! Just ordered a 70L Thermopot from EBay France to the tune of £94.50 inc p&p ! All paid up through PayPal just got to wait for it to arrive ! Then it will be onto BES to order one of those nice Shiny 3 parts ball valves, then dismantle old mashtun and reuse manifold ! Might have to extend brewing stand to fit new Thermopot though there Huge !!

Cheers DC
congrats on joining the shinney world

on my system I have three of those 3 part ball valves - very good they are too, I find that the only one which I need to take apart for cleaning is the one on the copper

while you are planning a brew stand it may be worth having a way to tilt the thermopot to get the beer from the bottom, I use a piece of wood under the back
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Re: MARMITE THERMOS 70 LITRES ?

Post by barneey » Tue Jun 19, 2012 8:16 am

DC wrote:Hi all, Well I finally did it and made the switch to Shiny ! Just ordered a 70L Thermopot from EBay France to the tune of £94.50 inc p&p ! All paid up through PayPal just got to wait for it to arrive ! Then it will be onto BES to order one of those nice Shiny 3 parts ball valves, then dismantle old mashtun and reuse manifold ! Might have to extend brewing stand to fit new Thermopot though there Huge !!

Cheers DC
If your using a copper manifold, buy a few hacksaw blades :lol:
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Re: MARMITE THERMOS 70 LITRES ?

Post by DC » Tue Jun 19, 2012 12:12 pm

Hi Barneey, I am going to re-use the manifold from my 24L picnic cooler mashtun (see below), one thing I am unsure about that you may be able to advise on is do I need to keep the length of copper pipe running from the back (Left side of pic) of the manifold to the tap (right side of pic) or can I just turn the manifold around and just connect the copper T piece to the back of the new 3 part ball valve on the new Shiny Thermopot ?

Chomping at the bit to get this new Shiny Mashtun and get cracking on it =P~ Tempted to get onto BES and order my 3 part ball valve ! But I think I will wait until the Shiny arrives and confirm that its deffo the 70L version with the tap already fitted [-o< I

24L Mashtun
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Cheers :wink:
FV No 1: Nowt
FV No 2: Nowt
FV No 3: Nowt
FV No 4: Nowt
Pressure Barrel No 1: Nowt
Conditioning: Nowt
Drinking: Nowt
Planning:
Yeast Bank: SafAle S04, Youngs Cider Yeast.
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