How does this one sound?

[Wez]

TLC-ish (Taylors Landlord Clone’ish)

After reading some threads here and doing some calculations based on the AA of the hops that I have been given from my local brewery I’ve come up with this recipe, it’s based on TTL.

Calculations based on:
25L Batch
(72% Efficiency)
(20% hop utilisation)

4660g M.O.
12L Mash Liquor
66 degree mash for 90 mins

Boil Time 90 mins
131g Styrian Goldings (AA 2%) Full boil giving an EBU of 21
36g Fuggles (Oregon) (AA 4.9%) Full boil giving EBU of 14
25g Styrian Goldings (AA 2%) Last 15 – No EBU value (I think)
25g Styrian Goldings (AA 2%) Thrown in at end of boil and left for 30 mins settle time and 30 mins cool and run off.

Target OG for 72% Efficiency 1040
Target ABV 4.3%

Could those experienced fellow who know about these things look over this for me and let me know if I’ve worked anything out incorrectly and whether I need to adjust anything?

Planning on brewing this on Sunday 29 April.

[tubby_shaw]

It looks good
Your predicted abv might be a little optimistic, I think it'd be closer to 4% but until you have a final gravity it's all guess work
I would also dry hop with some of those hops I love the aroma of Styrian Goldings
Let us know how it turns out, if it's Ok with you I might give this recipe a go myself

[delboy]

Thats a lot of hops, wez watch you don't overload your hop strainer (i use the one that comes with the H&G 10G brewery and its a PITA when it sticks which it seems to with much over 100g), keep the syphon handy.

[Wez]

if it's Ok with you I might give this recipe a go myself

Please do!!

[Wez]

Thats a lot of hops, wez watch you don't overload your hop strainer

I don't really have a choice with the low AA of the Styrians i've been given i need to use loads to get the EBU I want from them. It'll be a total of 217g hops!! I use the hop strainer from LHB am i going to have a problem should i reconsider and also what should i do if it does stick?

[mysterio]

I calculate 49 IBUs for that using the Tinseth formula. Maybe a tad on the high side - I would probably key it down to around 35-40 if you're using Tinseth. You will get 5 IBUs of bitterness using those low-alpha styrians at 15 mins. If it were me, I would probably reduce the Fuggles to 15g.

I would start cooling as soon as the last lot of hops going in... theres no real point in letting them steep for half an hour before cooling. Remember you'll still be extracting bitterness while the wort is close to boiling.

Bitterness is subjective though, if you find that amount of hops gets the bitterness you're looking for then ignore all that.

EDIT: Regarding the hop strainer, I regularly do 10 gal batches with around 280 grams of hops with not too much bother, however - this absorbs close to a gallon of wort! So you may want to increase your brew length accordingly.

[spearmint-wino]

Looks nice! I've been doing lots of landlord-ish brews recently, experimenting with styrians which are fast becoming my favourite hop.

Let us know how it turns out

[mysterio]

Yeah i've been using a boat-load of Styrians in what's becoming my house ale. Probably my favourite hop at the moment.

[Wez]

I calculate 49 IBUs for that using the Tinseth formula. Maybe a tad on the high side - I would probably key it down to around 35-40 if you're using Tinseth. You will get 5 IBUs of bitterness using those low-alpha styrians at 15 mins. If it were me, I would probably reduce the Fuggles to 15g.

I would start cooling as soon as the last lot of hops going in... theres no real point in letting them steep for half an hour before cooling. Remember you'll still be extracting bitterness while the wort is close to boiling.

Bitterness is subjective though, if you find that amount of hops gets the bitterness you're looking for then ignore all that.

EDIT: Regarding the hop strainer, I regularly do 10 gal batches with around 280 grams of hops with not too much bother, however - this absorbs close to a gallon of wort! So you may want to increase your brew length accordingly.

You're gonna have to explain the Tinseth formula to me

[iowalad]

Used Styrians for the first time this weekend and think it may start to vie with Goldings for my affections. AA's around 4.8% in mine.

A little bitter for me but that is just personal preference.

[mysterio]

You're gonna have to explain the Tinseth formula to me

Basically there are different formulas for calculating IBU/EBUs. No one is the 'right' formula because the factors that affect hop utilisation are numerous. Tinseth is the formula the program I use (Beersmith) uses by default and I find it's broadly accurate. The best thing to do is to make sure you use the same formula for every recipe you use/create, so that you have a reference point when your beer seems under/over hopped.

[delboy]

EDIT: Regarding the hop strainer, I regularly do 10 gal batches with around 280 grams of hops with not too much bother, however - this absorbs close to a gallon of wort! So you may want to increase your brew length accordingly.

I done a 5 gallon batch last night in the H&G 10 gallon brewery boiler with the supplied hop strainer. The bloody thing stuck with only 80g of loose hops .
I think the shape of the boiler bucket must be a contributing factor there is a indentation in the middle (ie below the hop strainer) which must allow the hops to accumulate below the strainer manifold blocking it up .
Has anyone else got this problem or is it just me.