Maris the Munich Otter

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eclipse

Re: Maris the Munich Otter

Post by eclipse » Mon Jul 02, 2012 1:29 am

I'd say you got some problems there buddy, it is very cloudy, no head and the carbonation doesnt look very lively. I would suggest putting your finished beer into a spare fv for a week with some auxiliary finnings or isinglass in order to condition it. You might also want to consider adding some wheat to your brew to give your beer a head.

From the look of the beer, you bottle or corny condition at too high a temp in order to have it carbonated faster? Conditioning at a lower temp over a longer period of time makes for a much better beer I think.

Am I right in thinking you didnt add any bittering hops? That's a big no no. Sorry if I am wrong, I have no idea about biab.

It's good to try these wacky beers, you should try making something simple like a smash so that you really get to know your ingredients :D

eclipse

Re: Maris the Munich Otter

Post by eclipse » Mon Jul 02, 2012 1:29 am

I'd say you got some problems there buddy, it is very cloudy, no head and the carbonation doesnt look very lively. I would suggest putting your finished beer into a spare fv for a week with some auxiliary finnings or isinglass in order to condition it. You might also want to consider adding some wheat to your brew to give your beer a head.

From the look of the beer, you bottle or corny condition at too high a temp in order to have it carbonated faster? Conditioning at a lower temp over a longer period of time makes for a much better beer I think.

Am I right in thinking you didnt add any bittering hops? That's a big no no. Sorry if I am wrong, I have no idea about biab.

It's good to try these wacky beers, you should try making something simple like a smash so that you really get to know your ingredients :D

darkonnis

Re: Maris the Munich Otter

Post by darkonnis » Mon Jul 02, 2012 11:25 am

No no, hops are in there as normal. Carboantion was good actually the trouble was it had too much body. I've moved away from BIAB now and do AG.... see my sig. I have tried finnings and quite like them, they clear very well and for me it's certainly worth doing. I have had some very clear ales though without using them, secondary FV then bottle from their. The biggest change i noted on getting clear beer is to use a high flocculating yeast, or certainly higher than S-04 which I have now gone off.

gnutz2

Re: Maris the Munich Otter

Post by gnutz2 » Mon Jul 02, 2012 12:37 pm

Huh?, s-04 is high floculating.

Try us-05, now that sticks around.

darkonnis

Re: Maris the Munich Otter

Post by darkonnis » Mon Jul 02, 2012 1:14 pm

Not what I've found, stuff with S-04 in seems to take a much longer time to settle and if it gets into the bottle it doesnt take much for the yeast to go back into suspension. US-05 which i used in Hop Pocket (see sig) worked very nicely and so far looking at nottingham ale yeast (danstar) I can only say that the wort was clear in the primary, crystal in the secondary and its due for kegging today.

maybe I'm just not creating the the right conditions for S-04 to drop out of suspension but its had the same treatment as the others, and its being outperformed massively.

gnutz2

Re: Maris the Munich Otter

Post by gnutz2 » Mon Jul 02, 2012 1:56 pm

Are you sure it's not chill haze from protiens.

darkonnis

Re: Maris the Munich Otter

Post by darkonnis » Mon Jul 02, 2012 3:10 pm

I don't drink my beer that cold, i usually do everything at around 20c start to finish, I'm chilling a briarsbest FV in the fridge atm though as after a week in secondary its still fairly yeasty looking. the riggwelter that was in the FV next to it i did using nottingham ale and its clear all the way through (in secondary) with a touch of yeast at the bottom, about to sugar solution/keg it now.
My beer fridge is typically set to 10 - 14c as any colder and i find the taste just isnt as good. even the room temp ones have plenty of yeast in from S-04. I think me and it are done and ill switch to nottingham US05 or i might try some liquids.

DaveSmith

Re: Maris the Munich Otter

Post by DaveSmith » Mon Jul 02, 2012 6:10 pm

eclipse wrote:I'd say you got some problems there buddy, it is very cloudy, no head and the carbonation doesnt look very lively..

:D
Would you pay for a pint, like you have pictured, in the pub, it looks pretty poor!

darkonnis

Re: Maris the Munich Otter

Post by darkonnis » Mon Jul 02, 2012 6:48 pm

Of course, because you learnt to write every word on the first go, spelling perfect and brewed everything from your very first attempt all the way through with spectacular results. It wasn't perfect, nor was chocobob but the experience has allowed me to make some awesome brews since. I seem to remember pointing out its actual flaws in the post above if you read that far down? no? not to worry.

jimp2003

Re: Maris the Munich Otter

Post by jimp2003 » Mon Jul 02, 2012 7:32 pm

DaveSmith wrote:
eclipse wrote:I'd say you got some problems there buddy, it is very cloudy, no head and the carbonation doesnt look very lively..

:D
Would you pay for a pint, like you have pictured, in the pub, it looks pretty poor!
Well that's a helpful comment! :roll:

The OP openly admits the flaws in his early brews as well as the good points that they may have had. I am sure we have all had brews that don't look quite as good as we would have liked - especially in our early days of brewing. Most of us however, don't have the balls to post pics of them on the forum...

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