Dissolved Oxygen Meter

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Re: Dissolved Oxygen Meter

Post by barneey » Mon Aug 06, 2012 7:23 pm

Just a quick update on this one....

Over the weekend I kegged 2 cornies worth of pale ale, fermentation went fine and no problems incurred.

Today I listened to a podcast by the brewstrong network http://thebrewingnetwork.com/shows/589 (fast forward thru the first 10mins odd just crap talk) anyway there view was slightly different on the bubbling of oxygen thru the wort and the head space plays an important part. Anyone else listened to the podcast? + when bubbling oxygen thru is your lid on or off?

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Re: Dissolved Oxygen Meter

Post by gregorach » Tue Aug 07, 2012 10:01 am

Haven't listen to it, no... But my lid is always on.
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Re: Dissolved Oxygen Meter

Post by barneey » Tue Aug 07, 2012 10:40 pm

For my next "water" experiments I`m going to try the same experiments again but with the lid on to see if the results vary at all?

On the podcast as well it also mentions an interesting idea / point about foaming issues.
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Re: Dissolved Oxygen Meter

Post by barneey » Sat Aug 11, 2012 3:28 pm

Since posting this I`ve also noticed + listened to the updated aeration podcast http://thebrewingnetwork.com/shows/771
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Re: Dissolved Oxygen Meter

Post by Lars » Sat Aug 11, 2012 10:01 pm

Check this out.
http://www.homebrewtalk.com/f51/cheap-e ... get-68218/
I've made one but only tested it with water. A section of 10mm OD copper with a 1mm hole drilled, inserted in the middle of my 1/2" flexible hose from my buffalo boiler ball valve. Had to reduce the flow from max to avoid water coming out the hole. Hope to test it with a brew this week.
Wish I had a DO meter to test it thoroughly....
Its a nice neat low tech idea

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Re: Dissolved Oxygen Meter

Post by jaybie » Mon Sep 10, 2012 5:47 pm

You can get DO electrodes relatively cheaply from Sentek (http://www.sentek.co.uk/dis.html). The galvanic ones are maintenance-free and last about 2 years. they produce a voltage depending on the DO level which could possibly be read using a sensitive voltmeter. The range is 0V for zero oxygen to about 55mV in air. The output needs to be adjusted for temperature but they provide a graph and we all own a calculator.

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Re: Dissolved Oxygen Meter

Post by barneey » Mon Sep 10, 2012 6:10 pm

The problem / summary I came up with after a few other experiements, was that yep its fairly easy to read how much oxygen is disolved in water using a stone / set time / set flow rate. Its what happens at the top of the fermenter, ie sealed area filled with oxygen and the exchange between the two, that becomes more difficult to measure.

When I get around to doing somemore experiments, I`ll bubble the o2 through the water with sealed top, let it sit for a day and then take a measurement.
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Re: Dissolved Oxygen Meter

Post by Martin G » Sat Dec 01, 2012 9:31 am

Where can I get a disposable oxygen cylinder, regulator, flow meter and pipe. I see that H&G do the scintered stone.

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Re: Dissolved Oxygen Meter

Post by barneey » Sat Dec 01, 2012 6:44 pm

the flow meters can be bought from http://www.coleparmer.co.uk/Product/Poc ... U-32500-80

I use a welding tank for my o2 supply, works out cheaper in the long run, but a pita for storage
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Re: Dissolved Oxygen Meter

Post by Martin G » Sat Dec 01, 2012 10:31 pm

Thanks, that solves the flow bit and I found a welding site that sells disposable oxygen and a regulator. Do people just use tubing to connect the bits together? Also I notice that the H&G scintered steel is 2 micron, is that small enough?

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Re: Dissolved Oxygen Meter

Post by barneey » Sun Dec 02, 2012 9:31 am

For stones Ive used both the 2 & .5 stone, both work but I now only use the .5

For tube normal silicone hose works fine.

For best results when bubbling o2 thro the wort leave the lid on as much as possible, ie head space has o2 in it.

Experiment with say 30 secs for a 5 gallon batch to start with - try increasing for future brews.

Always rehydrate if using dry or make a starter for the yeast to get things of to a quick start, no point in putting o2 in the wort only for it to fall out before things get going.

See what works best for your set up.

One other piece of advice is to start the o2 off before dipping the stone in the wort + leave on until out again, then give a good blast afterwards, try not to touch the stone and finally clean / boil the thing before use.

Have fun and remember no smoking :)
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Re: Dissolved Oxygen Meter

Post by Martin G » Sun Dec 02, 2012 12:20 pm

Thanks, do you use oxygen on starters?

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Re: Dissolved Oxygen Meter

Post by Martin G » Sun Dec 02, 2012 12:21 pm

Thanks, do you use oxygen on starters?

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Re: Dissolved Oxygen Meter

Post by barneey » Sun Dec 02, 2012 2:51 pm

Never tried it just a stir plate if required.

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