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Citra

Post by soupdragon » Thu Sep 06, 2012 4:01 pm

Hi All

Planning an all Citra brew this Sunday.

3700g Pale Malt
250g Munich Malt
250g Torrified Wheat

Citra 30g @ 20 mins from end of boil
Citra 30g @ 10 mins from end of boil
Citra 40g @ 80c steep for 40 mins

23l target O.G 1.044
EBU 41

Nottingham yeast.

Getting sick of us-05 not compacting so will try Nottingham.
May split the 40g steep into 20g steep and 20g dry hop, not sure yet. I'd love to get something close to Oakham's Citra. I read somewhere on here that it's not dry hopped so might leave it as it is...............

Any thoughts :D

Cheers Tom

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Re: Citra

Post by CestrIan » Thu Sep 06, 2012 10:39 pm

Looks nice Tom! It's a brew everyone should try once. It's nice but it's not a session beer. More than two or three pints and your taste buds go in to a coma for 24 hours.
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Re: Citra

Post by seymour » Thu Sep 06, 2012 11:11 pm

This takes things a totally different direction, but have you ever brewed Berliner Weiss? If you like a light, wheaty, lacto-sour beer every once in awhile, I think citrusy hops go perfectly. You could brew something like http://www.ratebeer.com/Recipe.asp?RecipeID=110

You could even scale it down and make alongside your recipe, or perhaps utilize the second runnings of your big batch.

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Re: Citra

Post by Cazamodo » Fri Sep 07, 2012 4:05 am

I have one of these in bottles. Love the flavour, but badly undercarbed =[. Its ok but flat... not sure how to remedy it or just put up with it! I love the Citra flavour though, and have loads left so may just brew another batch to keg!

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Re: Citra

Post by soupdragon » Fri Sep 07, 2012 6:04 am

CestrIan wrote:Looks nice Tom! It's a brew everyone should try once. It's nice but it's not a session beer. More than two or three pints and your taste buds go in to a coma for 24 hours.
I've only ever had 2 pints of Oakham's Citra in one go. It's usually time to move on to the next pub before I can get near enough to the bar and order a third :( Really is a tasty beer though :D

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Re: Citra

Post by soupdragon » Fri Sep 07, 2012 6:07 am

seymour wrote:This takes things a totally different direction, but have you ever brewed Berliner Weiss? If you like a light, wheaty, lacto-sour beer every once in awhile, I think citrusy hops go perfectly. You could brew something like http://www.ratebeer.com/Recipe.asp?RecipeID=110

You could even scale it down and make alongside your recipe, or perhaps utilize the second runnings of your big batch.
I must admit that wheat beers don't do anything for me. The last one I had did have some tangy/zesty flavour to it but there always seems to be a stronger underlying flavour in them that puts me off :(
Each to their own though..............

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Re: Citra

Post by soupdragon » Fri Sep 07, 2012 6:09 am

Cazamodo wrote:I have one of these in bottles. Love the flavour, but badly undercarbed =[. Its ok but flat... not sure how to remedy it or just put up with it! I love the Citra flavour though, and have loads left so may just brew another batch to keg!
How does your recipe compare to the one I'm doing?

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Re: Citra

Post by Cazamodo » Fri Sep 07, 2012 7:52 am

It was a recipe from a post here

73.62% Maris Otter Malt
20.54% Pilsner
2.92% Munich I
2.92% Torrified Wheat

1.4 g/L Citra (15% Alpha) @ 15 Minutes (Boil)
0.8 g/L Citra (15% Alpha) @ 5 Minutes (Boil)
1.8 g/L Citra (15% Alpha) @ 0 Minutes (Aroma)

For Pilsner I used the lager malt I have, and as for the actual amounts, I have them written somewhere but cant for the life of me find them! Ill have to work it out again for a 5gallon batch.

I laos used US-05 and have no problem with it not compacting in the bottles. Maybe though as i under primed there is less in them. Im tempted to pour all the bottle into my keg and carb up but I think I would be just asking for an infection.

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Re: Citra

Post by soupdragon » Fri Sep 07, 2012 11:35 am

Ah yes, that would be a bit risky.

If you filled your keg with co2 first then took the cap off it might not be so bad but it's certainly a risk.

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Re: Citra

Post by raiderman » Fri Sep 07, 2012 1:53 pm

soupdragon wrote:Hi All

Planning an all Citra brew this Sunday.



Citra 30g @ 20 mins from end of boil
Citra 30g @ 10 mins from end of boil
Citra 40g @ 80c steep for 40 mins

23l target O.G 1.044
EBU 41

Nottingham yeast.



Cheers Tom
That'll work fine. I've just done an all Citra on similar lines but using aromatic malt instad of cara or vienna and windsor and SO5 for yeast and its good. That was 200g of Citra all in the last 15m and post boil and its got a fabulous aroma. I went for 50ebu and i don't think its too bitter so at 41 you should get nice citra characteritis and something very drinkable. Mine is quite malty and if I have a criticism I think the citra compliments a paler beer, so yours is a better balance.

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Re: Citra

Post by Barley Water » Fri Sep 07, 2012 2:28 pm

I will be interested to hear how your beer comes out. I just did a hop bursted Amercian wheat beer for a festival which worked out great. I used alot of Simcoe and I thought it worked out well but I would also be up for screwing around with the hopping and trying some Citra. I think straight American wheat beers are boring but they get much more interesting with late hops, the trick seems to be in finding a combination you enjoy. What I'm going for is a beer which is really not all that bitter (because I want some wheat character to come through) but which has alot of hop flavor and of course a massive hop aroma.
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Re: Citra

Post by soupdragon » Fri Sep 07, 2012 4:44 pm

raiderman wrote:That'll work fine. I've just done an all Citra on similar lines but using aromatic malt instad of cara or vienna and windsor and SO5 for yeast and its good. That was 200g of Citra all in the last 15m and post boil and its got a fabulous aroma. I went for 50ebu and i don't think its too bitter so at 41 you should get nice citra characteritis and something very drinkable. Mine is quite malty and if I have a criticism I think the citra compliments a paler beer, so yours is a better balance.
This'll be my 1st brew to go in one of my corny's that were delivered ( thanks Norm ). I won't be priming ( another 1st ), I'll be well chuffed if it turns out well.
I did a trial brew with some dried malt extract from work that wasn't strictly brewing grade. It wasn't to the same recipe, it ended up rather sweet and as cloudy as hell because of the malt but it tasted ok.

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Re: Citra

Post by soupdragon » Fri Sep 07, 2012 4:50 pm

Barley Water wrote:I will be interested to hear how your beer comes out. I just did a hop bursted Amercian wheat beer for a festival which worked out great. I used alot of Simcoe and I thought it worked out well but I would also be up for screwing around with the hopping and trying some Citra. I think straight American wheat beers are boring but they get much more interesting with late hops, the trick seems to be in finding a combination you enjoy. What I'm going for is a beer which is really not all that bitter (because I want some wheat character to come through) but which has alot of hop flavor and of course a massive hop aroma.
I'll post updates as the beer progresses.

I've never tried Simcoe but it's on my list of must use hops :) I believe that Brewdog use bucket loads of them in their Punk and Hardcore IPA's. Not tried Hardcore but I love the big hit from the hops in Punk =P~

Cheers Tom

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Re: Citra

Post by jonnyt » Mon Sep 10, 2012 3:50 pm

I think that looks like an excellent recipe.
Might be worth splitting in two and dry hopping some?

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Re: Citra

Post by soupdragon » Mon Sep 10, 2012 4:47 pm

jonnyt wrote:Might be worth splitting in two and dry hopping some?
Brew day was delayed until today.

Ended up going with the above recipe. I've got another pack of Citra so depending how this turns out I might split the late hops and dry with half. I didn't dry hop this as someone here posted that, as far as he knows, Oakham's Citra isn't dry hopped. If I can get something close to it I'll be well chuffed :)
The Kipling I've just started drinking was dry hopped and even though it's barely two weeks in bottle, it's tasting great. I split 50g between a steep and dry in the primary after 7-8 days.

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