Tim Taylor Visits California

[flytact]

No pressure. Just three pages of interested people.

[monk]

You know, it just occurred to me...the only result of this experiment is going to be finding out which recipe the Monk prefers, seeing as how I have no way of comparing the resultant homebrews to a real TTL. Hmmm. Maybe by the time they're ready I can arrange for photos to be posted so that at least you all can examine the color.

monk

[Vossy1]

as how I have no way of comparing the resultant homebrews to a real TTL.

You must have a source over there, surely

[bluesboy]

I have been playing with my new digital camera and buying beer, and taken another photo of:

1 Budweiser Budvar (single Pilsener malt) (colour 4 EBC)
2 TTL (bottled) (draught is 10 EBC, bottled unknown)
3 Fullers London Pride (24 EBC)
4 Marston's Pedigree (30 EBC)
Figures from Graham Wheeler's BYOBRAH 1998

TTL was almost exactly the same colour as Pride & Pedigree, and appeared slightly darker)

[BitterTed]

I have been playing with my new digital camera and buying beer, and taken another photo of:

1 Budweiser Budvar (single Pilsener malt) (colour 4 EBC)
2 TTL (bottled) (draught is 10 EBC, bottled unknown)
3 Fullers London Pride (24 EBC)
4 Marston's Pedigree (30 EBC)
Figures from Graham Wheeler's BYOBRAH 1998

TTL was almost exactly the same colour as Pride & Pedigree, and appeared slightly darker)

Oh the torture!! What a great pic!! I am very thirsty now!!
My that Pedigree looks delightful!!

[monk]

as how I have no way of comparing the resultant homebrews to a real TTL.

You must have a source over there, surely

I'm going to ask at the local rare beers shop, but I've never seen it anywhere. Perhaps the local guy will order a case if I buy it.

That's a decent excuse to my lady for buying a case of beer, right?

[Vossy1]

That's a decent excuse to my lady for buying a case of beer, right?

Oh yes

[bluesboy]

Just bought a pint of draught TTL to compare with the bottled TTL, the colour is a lot lighter on the draught and needless to say the taste is quite different.

Here are
1 TTL bottled
2 TTL draught
3 Budweiser Budvar for colour comparision



Bluesboy

[Andy]

Now I'm thirsty

[mysterio]

Interesting

[monk]

ok then...which one tastes better?! I want to make the better one! I'll be serving it on draft, too.

monk

[bluesboy]

Monk

The draught is the superior drink by far (as is usual between draught and bottled beers here in UK). The bottled has been pasteurised (to kill yeast) and force carbonated which radically alters the taste of any beer which is meant to be served "live".

The pasteurised and forced carbonation of CO2 are very evident in this bottled version of this beer, it is meant to be a light pale ale with masses of hops (allegedly to quench the thirsts of local Yorkshire miners). I think it may be a different beer? as it is 4.3% on draught and 4.1% in bottles (but that is just a wild guess).

Bluesboy

[Andy]

I don't bother buying bottled TTL anymore as it tastes nowt like the cask beer.

But find casked TTL served in a pub with a well kept beer cellar and it's gorgeous

[monk]

Ah...now we're getting down to the bottom of this mystery. I'll be making no bottled second-rate swag! I want to emulate the good stuff! My ingredients came in the mail yesterday, incidentally. A little warm, as it's 33c here at present. Who knows how hot Texas is, too (where it came from ). I think it will be fine, though. The grain came in a vacuum packed/sealed plastic bag (looks like a pillow) and is comfortably resting in my 17c fermentation chamber. Can't wait!

monk

[mysterio]

Good stuff monk. One of the keys to this beer is to serve it with a delicate carbonation, I reckon. Allows the bitterness of the hops to come through and balance the beer.