American Pale Ale - Recipe Help

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Re: American Pale Ale - Recipe Help

Post by orlando » Tue Dec 04, 2012 8:33 am

Barley Water wrote: (and I'll spare you my rant concerning Chinook hops). :D
Please don't - I've just bought some :shock:
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Re: American Pale Ale - Recipe Help

Post by seymour » Tue Dec 04, 2012 1:36 pm

Yeah, they're defective. Downright poisonous, actually. I'll PM you the official US return address :)

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Re: American Pale Ale - Recipe Help

Post by Barley Water » Tue Dec 04, 2012 3:58 pm

It's a personal preference thing Orlando, at the end of the day I don't know zip. If you want to appreciate the difference between the high cohumolone hops a great example being Chinook and the lower cohumolone hops like Warrior, Simcoe, Amarillo etc get a bottle of Arrogant Bastard and Dogfish Head 60 and see which one you like better. I like Dogfish Head hands down but Stone brewing is getting rich on the people that disagree with me and that's what makes horse races interesting so what the heck. My advice to you is brew with the stuff and see what you think. :D
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Re: American Pale Ale - Recipe Help

Post by orlando » Tue Dec 04, 2012 5:46 pm

Got a brew in an FV using Amarillo and Chinook and Goldings, a recipe from the brewer that started Woodfordes in Norfolk. Tasted his and was really impressed at the flavours and in particular the aroma. Haven't made this before but the Goldings and Amarillo are used at the start of the boil and the Chinook are aroma steep hops. I've just yesterday dry hopped with some more Chinook as the hop aroma has really declined rapidly, hope I haven't ruined it with this deviation.
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Re: American Pale Ale - Recipe Help

Post by orlando » Tue Dec 04, 2012 5:49 pm

seymour wrote:Yeah, they're defective. Downright poisonous, actually. I'll PM you the official US return address :)
Probably cost a lot less than the hops, even if Concorde was still flying. I wonder if the address is anywhere near your house :D
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Re: American Pale Ale - Recipe Help

Post by seymour » Tue Dec 04, 2012 6:06 pm

orlando wrote:
seymour wrote:Yeah, they're defective. Downright poisonous, actually. I'll PM you the official US return address :)
...I wonder if the address is anywhere near your house :D
One and the same, my friend. The only way to dispose of these is to boil them in some sugary water first :)
Actually, I just figured Barley Water would skim this thread, and I like teasing him about Chinook.
Barley Water wrote:It's a personal preference thing Orlando...
True
Barley Water wrote:...at the end of the day I don't know zip...
False. I have a feeling you know more than any of us, and I always look forward to your responses. Cheers!

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Re: American Pale Ale - Recipe Help

Post by Barley Water » Tue Dec 04, 2012 10:05 pm

Oh, I don't know about that. If the definiation of a knowlegable person is one who let's others make their mistakes for them, I'm certainly a moron.

I do however have a tidbit worth remembering: If you make a beer utilizing Rosalare yeast then keg it in a cornie and let it sit around for a year and a half, there may well be significant pressure built up (even though it was dead flat when racked into the keg). When one goes to blend some of the beer in said cornie at room temperature, that pressure is going to be released and in my case I had "old faithful" going off in my kitchen. The only good news about this ugly tale is that the moron's wife was not home at the time so there was time to clean up before the recriminations started flying. :D
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Re: American Pale Ale - Recipe Help

Post by seymour » Tue Dec 04, 2012 10:08 pm

Did you at least have the presence of mind to catch some of the rain in a pint glass?

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Re: American Pale Ale - Recipe Help

Post by Barley Water » Tue Dec 04, 2012 11:22 pm

Actually, I tried to position my mouth over the geyser but truthfully, that didn't work out so well.
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Re: American Pale Ale - Recipe Help

Post by seymour » Tue Dec 04, 2012 11:28 pm

You lambic water-boarded yourself? Brave man!

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Re: American Pale Ale - Recipe Help

Post by louiscowdroy » Wed Dec 05, 2012 8:04 am

I've purchased Cluster, Nugget and Galena......are these Hops any good for an APA???

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Re: American Pale Ale - Recipe Help

Post by orlando » Wed Dec 05, 2012 9:04 am

Barley Water wrote:Oh, I don't know about that. If the definiation of a knowlegable person is one who let's others make their mistakes for them, I'm certainly a moron.

I do however have a tidbit worth remembering: If you make a beer utilizing Rosalare yeast then keg it in a cornie and let it sit around for a year and a half, there may well be significant pressure built up (even though it was dead flat when racked into the keg). When one goes to blend some of the beer in said cornie at room temperature, that pressure is going to be released and in my case I had "old faithful" going off in my kitchen. The only good news about this ugly tale is that the moron's wife was not home at the time so there was time to clean up before the recriminations started flying. :D

I was reading this out to my Wife in order to have a good laugh at someone else's expense and then rather pithily she reminded me of my Ginger Beer bottles exploding in the kitchen - she was at home #-o :oops:
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Re: American Pale Ale - Recipe Help

Post by seymour » Wed Dec 05, 2012 2:49 pm

orlando wrote:
Barley Water wrote:Oh, I don't know about that. If the definiation of a knowlegable person is one who let's others make their mistakes for them, I'm certainly a moron...
I was reading this out to my Wife in order to have a good laugh at someone else's expense and then rather pithily she reminded me of my Ginger Beer bottles exploding in the kitchen - she was at home...
I've got one, too. I was not at home, but my wife was and had to do all the cleanup. I had a half-gallon glass carboy FULL of washed yeast ready to repitch. You can barely see what remained of it on the counter by the stove, under the Guinness bottle opener. I swear the lid was loose, but obviously not loose enough. A big chunk of glass blew-out of the side and the pungent live yeast filled the room. That's not beer in the picture, it's thick sludge. We didn't even know the floor sloped like that!
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Anyway, back to your question Louis:
Cluster is a good American bittering hop. One of the best in my opinion, and very underrated, so treasure that stuff. The Nugget and Galena are good, yes, and American, yes, but to win an APA contest you'll likely want at least some Cascade or better yet some really distinctive new-school American aroma hops for the late and/or dry-hop stages: Amarillo, Simcoe, Chinook, etc.

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Re: American Pale Ale - Recipe Help

Post by critch » Wed Dec 05, 2012 7:29 pm

orlando wrote:
Barley Water wrote: (and I'll spare you my rant concerning Chinook hops). :D
Please don't - I've just bought some :shock:
please orlando, dont worry theyre great, ive won a lot of beer festival firsts with my liverpool pale ale, and its a very simple beer fully hopped with chinook

one word of advice, hop bomb 'em! :D

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Re: American Pale Ale - Recipe Help

Post by orlando » Thu Dec 06, 2012 12:31 pm

I might slip this into the brew schedule next then. I was thinking to keep the malt bill simple to express the hop but any advice (over and above hop bombing as I only have about 85g left) is welcome.
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