Beginner's Kit Recommendations...

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dan_olo

Beginner's Kit Recommendations...

Post by dan_olo » Sun May 13, 2007 2:18 pm

Hi,

First off, I'm new to this forum so hello to all. I'm also new to homebrewing - in fact I haven't even started yet! I just want to see what you people would recommend as a first-time kit for a new home brewer.

I've had a quick skim of these forums and Brupaks seem to come quite highly rated. Would I be ok starting off with their Brewer's Choice Traditional IPA? Also, what additional equipment would I need over and above what is included with the kit?

Thanks for all the interesting and informative posts on this forum,


D

prodigal2

Post by prodigal2 » Sun May 13, 2007 3:12 pm

dan_olo

DaaB's pages on starting out is a great place to start out:

http://www.18000feet.com/how/H2HB2.htm

Its worth noting that a beer kit refers as a rule to just the ingredients to make beer.

To start out I would do a Brupaks Pride of Yorkshire kits, but that would be just me, the brewers choice range is a tad more involved, though it does produce stunning beer with DME(Dried Malt Extract).

Its easy to confuse kits with the kit you need to produce beer, and in truth most of us have made the mistake when starting out
:wink:

Stonch

Post by Stonch » Sun May 13, 2007 3:41 pm

Yes, I think that's one of the most confusing aspects for the beginner!

Intuitively you'd think kit would refer to the buckets, the tube, the barrels and all that jazz.

SteveD

Post by SteveD » Sun May 13, 2007 4:40 pm

Munton's Smuggler's Gold is a good one. It's more pricey, being a premium 3kg all malt kit, ie, no extra sugar to add, but I think it's worth it.

I made this kit a few years back, after I'd been mashing for a while, as a bit of a laugh, and I was short of time. When it was tasted, my genuine initial reaction was "Bloody Hell! These kits have improved! If I'd known they'd got this good, I'd have made a few"

When I started, kits weren't as good, with Tom Caxton, and Boots, being the most popular, but now is a different story.

Stonch, your Beer blog is a riot. Taking the keg onto the street. Quality!! :lol: :lol:

davidson

Post by davidson » Sun May 13, 2007 4:56 pm

If you want to do a lager, you cant fault any of the coopers range

tubby_shaw

Post by tubby_shaw » Sun May 13, 2007 5:31 pm

davidson wrote:If you want to do a lager, you cant fault any of the coopers range
In fact not only lager kits, the Coopers ale kits made with dried spray malt instead of sugar come highly reccomended :D

dan_olo

Post by dan_olo » Sun May 13, 2007 6:31 pm

Thanks for the advice.

Is it not the wrong time of year to be making lager? It's something I'd love to try but I was under the impression that you needed a low temperature fermentation for lagers. I have a brick outhouse in my garden which would probably stay under 20 degrees in all but the very warmest of the British summer (if we get one!) - do you think lager would work in there?

Burner

Post by Burner » Sun May 13, 2007 8:07 pm

Have you considered the Brewferm kits? They are really very simple and produce nice beer.

kenmc

Post by kenmc » Sun May 13, 2007 9:33 pm

Burner wrote:Have you considered the Brewferm kits? They are really very simple and produce nice beer.
I second this. easily the best kit's i've tried.
whatever kit you use though, AVOID ADDING SUGAR, use DME or LME instead.

sparky Paul

Post by sparky Paul » Sun May 13, 2007 10:12 pm

I was asked the other day for a recommendation for a kit for a beginner, I was thinking about a 3Kg single can liquid kit like the John Bull Masterclass kits which seem to work well enough.

With nothing to add, I can't see how a beginner can go wrong... DME is great, but it isn't the easiest stuff to work with. :wink:

BarryNL

Post by BarryNL » Sun May 13, 2007 11:04 pm

Burner wrote:Have you considered the Brewferm kits? They are really very simple and produce nice beer.
They do, but the downside for a new brewer is that you need to use DME to get good results and also you need to wait at least 6 weeks after bottling for them to really hit their best.

Definitely recommended as a second or third kit to do though. In fact I did a Diablo today (as relaxation after doing an all-grain yesterday). I think the Diablo is going to be a monster - I used 750g DME instead of the 500g sugar they suggest - and it hit 1.080!!

Stonch

Post by Stonch » Sun May 13, 2007 11:54 pm

BarryNL wrote:Definitely recommended as a second or third kit to do though. In fact I did a Diablo today (as relaxation after doing an all-grain yesterday).
I love that - what does a homebrewer do to unwind after a heavy homebrew session?

More homebrewing!

Stonch

Post by Stonch » Sun May 13, 2007 11:56 pm

sparky Paul wrote:I was asked the other day for a recommendation for a kit for a beginner, I was thinking about a 3Kg single can liquid kit like the John Bull Masterclass kits which seem to work well enough.

With nothing to add, I can't see how a beginner can go wrong... DME is great, but it isn't the easiest stuff to work with. :wink:
Out of interest, what's the difficulty in handling DME? Is it to do with it absorbing moisture from the air? If so, why's that such a problem?

Burner

Post by Burner » Mon May 14, 2007 12:01 am

BarryNL wrote: They do, but the downside for a new brewer is that you need to use DME to get good results and also you need to wait at least 6 weeks after bottling for them to really hit their best.

Definitely recommended as a second or third kit to do though. In fact I did a Diablo today (as relaxation after doing an all-grain yesterday). I think the Diablo is going to be a monster - I used 750g DME instead of the 500g sugar they suggest - and it hit 1.080!!
Yowzer that should be truly Diabolical (in a good way). I did the Christmas yesterday in order to have it ready for this coming Christmas!!

Paul_S

Post by Paul_S » Mon May 14, 2007 7:32 am

sparky Paul wrote:I was asked the other day for a recommendation for a kit for a beginner, I was thinking about a 3Kg single can liquid kit like the John Bull Masterclass kits which seem to work well enough.

With nothing to add, I can't see how a beginner can go wrong... DME is great, but it isn't the easiest stuff to work with. :wink:
I made a JB Masterclass Bavarian lager for my wife. It is taking a hell of a long time to clear - there is continuing secondary fermentation so I keep having to vent the barrel.

If you went for one of these kits I'd get a decent lager or ale yeast as mentioned above.

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