Can i make a authenticish Munich helles with pale malt?

[Mckelvie20]

No bother mate might give Cali common ago sound interesting. Funny you said that I've actually apply for a brewing and distilling course at uni so might be living the dream fingers cross lol

[seymour]

Good for you, mate. That's very exciting! Keep us posted.

[Mckelvie20]

Made the one with lemon zest today smelt amazing in the kettle the cascade addition at flameout got me right in the mood for a beer lol will keep you's posted. however i messed up a bit and didnt have vessel big enough to sparge into so had to sparge into the boiler that is my hlt. meaning i had to do two large 14 L batch sparges with lots of mess around with pots and pans instead of the 4 7 L beer smith suggested, could this have any ill effects.

[seymour]

If I understand your scenario correctly, Mckelvie20, I don't think it'll have any noticeable impact on the final beer. It probably lengthened your mash duration, in turn improving your efficiency, making it a little more fermentable, thus finishing a little drier. But that would be beneficial in the Munich Helles style anyway. As long as it all got boiled, you shouldn't pick-up an infection. Cheers!

[jmc]

Hi Seymour

Thinking of doing something along these lines as good temp to brew in range 8C-13C in my garage

I've only got the pilsner, vienna and munich listed below in recipe so thought I'd bump it up with pale malt (Flagon).

Do you think it would be OK, maybe with Saflager W34 yeast?
I've deliberately reduced the OG to try to keep to the same ratio of munich & vienna in recipe you used.

Helles 1-Seymour

Fermentable Colour lb: oz Grams Ratio
Pale Malt 5 EBC 4 lbs. 6.5 oz 2000 grams 37%
Vienna Malt 7.5 EBC 3 lbs. 1.4 oz 1400 grams 25.9%
Munich Malt 20 EBC 2 lbs. 3.3 oz 1000 grams 18.5%
Pilsner Malt - Weyermann 4 EBC 2 lbs. 3.3 oz 1000 grams 18.5%


Hop Variety Type Alpha Time lb: oz grams Ratio
Hallertauer Hersbrucker Whole 2.9 % 90 mins 0 lbs. 1.1 oz 30 grams 44.1%
Tettnang Whole 5 % 90 mins 0 lbs. 0.6 oz 16 grams 23.5%
Hallertauer Hersbrucker Whole 2.9 % 15 mins 0 lbs. 0.4 oz 12 grams 17.6%
Tettnang Whole 5 % 15 mins 0 lbs. 0.4 oz 10 grams 14.7%


Final Volume: 23 Litres
Original Gravity: 1.053
Final Gravity: 1.012
Alcohol Content: 5.3% ABV
Total Liquor: 36.3 Litres
Mash Liquor: 13.5 Litres
Mash Efficiency: 75 %
Bitterness: 21.65 EBU
Colour: 15 EBC

[seymour]

Looks good to me.

[Mckelvie20]

Anyone tried it the other way about i.e using lager malt for ales?

[seymour]

Of course, so should you. I may get slayed for this, but in the general sense, base malt is base malt.

[seymour]

No bother mate might give Cali common ago sound interesting. Funny you said that I've actually apply for a brewing and distilling course at uni so might be living the dream fingers cross lol

Hey Mckelvie20, did you end up enrolling? A friend of mine is considering UK brewing schools, do you know which have the best reputations?

[Mckelvie20]

Hey yeah i applied for Heriot Watt should hear back in March it's a 4 year course so the same as college in america, i've seen it mentioned in several articles as the Oxford or Cambridge of brewing (so like you're harvard) so sounds like it's the place to be when it comes to the UK.

[seymour]

Thanks, man. I passed it along. Best of luck! Sometimes the waiting is the hardest part.