My beer tastes like melons

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My beer tastes like melons

Post by Hogarth » Thu Jan 17, 2013 9:43 pm

The title says it all, really. My latest batch tastes like melons: a bit sweet and sickly and fruity and pretty much like drinking a melon.

Here's the recipe:

4kg Maris Otter
500g Crystal
25g First Gold (8.1%) for 90mins = 30IBU
20g First Gold (8.1%) 15 mins
Safeale 04 (rehydrated)

OG: 1048

The OG was much higher than I'd planned, and what I'm wondering is: is this melony taste simply a symptom of underhopping? Does fermented malt taste of melons if you don't give it enough bitterness to counteract it? Or is this something else -- a nasty ester, perhaps? Has anyone else tasted melons?

I gotta stop saying 'melons', I'm getting thoughts...

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Re: My beer tastes like melons

Post by far9410 » Thu Jan 17, 2013 9:52 pm

seems a pretty straight forward recipe to me, someone may recognise a fault that gives a melon flavour, otherwise dunno
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Re: My beer tastes like melons

Post by johnmac » Thu Jan 17, 2013 9:54 pm

Are you familiar with the taste of diacetyl?

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Re: My beer tastes like melons

Post by far9410 » Thu Jan 17, 2013 9:56 pm

johnmac wrote:Are you familiar with the taste of diacetyl?
Ahh had me there, its not melons tho!
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Re: My beer tastes like melons

Post by OldSpeckledBadger » Thu Jan 17, 2013 11:16 pm

Fermented malt tastes slightly malty. It's definitely not under-hopping (mild doesn't taste of melons). Perhaps it's just some weird result of using quite a lot of crystal malt with first gold?
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Re: My beer tastes like melons

Post by Dr. Dextrin » Thu Jan 17, 2013 11:36 pm

I think if a beer was sweet (hadn't finished fermenting) and you let a lot of oxygen get to it, you might get something vaguely resembling melons. But I suspect you'd notice if either of those things had gone wrong. :)

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Re: My beer tastes like melons

Post by Andy__ » Fri Jan 18, 2013 12:17 am

It could, as already stated, just be a strange combination of ingredients.
It could be your water.
It could be something in your mash/sparge.
It could be stale/old ingredients.

My guess is that you have put your yeast under stress somehow. Most likely by fermenting way to cold or hot.

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Re: My beer tastes like melons

Post by micromaniac » Fri Jan 18, 2013 2:41 pm

how long was your mash? i did a couple of 15hour mash,s and that left a strange taste to it ,sometimes i,d like it next drink not so much .this never happened before or since.

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Re: My beer tastes like melons

Post by alix101 » Fri Jan 18, 2013 4:53 pm

Do you use temprature control when you ferment?
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Re: My beer tastes like melons

Post by AnthonyUK » Fri Jan 18, 2013 8:16 pm

Doesn't one of the Badger beers taste of melons?
Golden glory maybe?

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Re: My beer tastes like melons

Post by Matt12398 » Fri Jan 18, 2013 8:39 pm

That's peach and they add something to it to get that flavour. It's not a malt or hops flavour.

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Re: My beer tastes like melons

Post by timbo41 » Fri Jan 18, 2013 8:40 pm

http://charlesfaram.co.uk/hops/hop-varieties/first-gold

Would you count melons as a bit citrusy
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Re: My beer tastes like melons

Post by Twistedfinger » Fri Jan 18, 2013 8:54 pm

Now if you had a pair of Melons that tasted like beer you wouldn't have a problem.

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Re: My beer tastes like melons

Post by Hogarth » Fri Jan 18, 2013 8:54 pm

Thanks for the replies chaps. Some excellent suggestions. I don't think it's diacetyl, which I've tasted before. Oxygenation is possible. I was using my stockpot fermenter for the first time, and the lid doesn't actually seal. It was in there for nine days and I suppose air could have entered.

Mash and fermentation temperature were all normal -- except, when I went to rack it, I found it had dropped to 13°C because of the cold weather. I only noticed this melon taste then. I wonder if the temperature had dropped before fermentation was finished, and the yeast struggled at the end? It does have that 'something went wrong with the fermentation' taste.

Mind you, I would appear to have drunk a good deal of it last night, so it can't be that bad. :oops:

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Re: My beer tastes like melons

Post by OldSpeckledBadger » Fri Jan 18, 2013 11:09 pm

Hogarth wrote:Oxygenation is possible. I was using my stockpot fermenter for the first time, and the lid doesn't actually seal. It was in there for nine days and I suppose air could have entered.
No you won't get oxygenation there. The lid doesn't need to seal. CO2 is heavier than air and will form a protective blanket over the beer.
Hogarth wrote:Mind you, I would appear to have drunk a good deal of it last night, so it can't be that bad. :oops:
By the end of the batch you'll probably have grown to really like it and will panicking that you may not be able to re-create ot :D
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