Coopers Sparkling Ale

[Old Jake]

I bought one of these today and the instructions say to add 500g of light spraymalt and 300g sugar to the tin 1.5kg tin of LME

I thought that sounded reasonable enough because lots of people substitute sugar with spraymalt.

This thread confused me though!

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Is DME the same as spraymalt? If so, why was it such an issue?

cheers

OJ

[Old Jake]

Just checked mine and I got it all wrong!!!

It is the same kit as the one mentioned!!

Ok, I have the coopers 1.7kg can of malt extract, 500g light spraymalt and about 500g of brewers sugar in the house. Will that make a decent beer do you think?

Also, some more questions?

Is DME and spraymalt the same?
What does the L in LME stand for Liquid or Light!!
If it's Light then what do you call the tin with the liquid in, is it just called the Wort mix??

Too many abbreviations!!!!!!!!!


cheers

OJ

[sparky Paul]

Ok, I have the coopers 1.7kg can of malt extract, 500g light spraymalt and about 500g of brewers sugar in the house. Will that make a decent beer do you think?

Also, some more questions?

Is DME and spraymalt the same?
What does the L in LME stand for Liquid or Light!!
If it's Light then what do you call the tin with the liquid in, is it just called the Wort mix??

I believe drsmurto (a forum member living down-under) makes these kits up with 1Kg of spraymalt and says they turn out well. It will work with 500g of spraymalt and glucose, but will be more hoppy and lighter bodied than intended, and only 4-4.5%.

I'm currently drinking a Sparkling Ale, made up with 1.5Kg light DME... not bad!

DME (Dried Malt Extract) and Spraymalt are indeed the same. You can get it in various colours - Extra Light, Light, Medium, Dark, and also Hopped, which has hop extract added.

LME is Liquid Malt Extract, i.e. canned - a 1.6Kg can of LME is roughly the equivalent of 1Kg of DME.

Hope this helps!

[Old Jake]

Thanks guys for the replies!

I suppose a trip to the brew shop is in order then!

I think i'll just buy another spraymalt and add 1kg of that. Should I also add the sugar?

cheers

Jacob

[Old Jake]

What if I reduce the volume by say a third (to about 16 litres), and just use the ingredients I have, would that be ok. I really can't be bothered going to the shop!!!

cheers

[mysterio]

You could, but it will make it more bitter than intended because the hop concentration is intended for the full volume. I would make a trip to the shop

[Old Jake]

Thanks,

i'm just being lazy!!! Trip to the shop it is!

cheers

OJ

[torchwood brewery]

try it this way

1.7 kg tin thomas coopers sparkling ale

1.5 kg light malt extract (spray malt)

500g light dry malt

300g dextrose (brewers sugar ,corn sugar)

12 g pride of ringwood finishing hops (hops in a tea bag)

make kit as normal but steep por hops for 10 minutes in boiled warm water add this and the bag befor pitching yeast starter and ferment @20 deg c for two weeks .bottle at 7g sugar / 750 ml bottle so carbonation will be around 2.4 leave to condition for 8 weeks then chill one or two down to about lager temp 3-4 degs c and crack and enjoy .
alc / vol will be a true 5.8% be care full though it hits ya .
for that true coopers famous cloudy but fine sparkling ale roll the bottle along the bar before opening to rouse the sediment.
thats the way we adelaide lads like it .

try it your self youl be surprised.

richard

[sparky Paul]

try it this way

1.7 kg tin thomas coopers sparkling ale

1.5 kg light malt extract (spray malt)

500g light dry malt

300g dextrose (brewers sugar ,corn sugar)

12 g pride of ringwood finishing hops (hops in a tea bag)

Do you mean 1.5Kg can of light liquid malt extract and 500g of light spraymalt as per the instructions, or something else?

I've made one up like that and it turned out pretty good - though I used Saaz hops, as Ringwood are a bit harder to get over here.

[torchwood brewery]

opps sorry sparky put spray malt in the wrong place to many fingers not enough beer .burrrrrp pardon me LOL

IF YOU EVER NEED SOME DRIED HOP PELLETS por i can always post you some.

richard

[drsmurto]

Sorry lads, somehow i missed this thread.

I have made this kit a few times and use it to replicate the real stuff. Torchwood brewery's instructions are spot on if you want to clone CSA.

There seems to be a few differences in the wordings we use in the Uk and down here in Oz.

I *believe* that what we call light dried malt extract you call spray malt.

The LME is the 1.5kg tin of liquid malt extract which is unhopped malt extract, the same as the dried stuff but with some water still in it.....

As i said i used this as the basis for a variety of beers. Drop the extra dextrose and spray malt and use amarillo hops or cascade and you have something like an APA. Using Fuggles and EKG can give you an english style ale. Tis a very flexible kit.

Cheers
DrSmurto

[sparky Paul]

opps sorry sparky put spray malt in the wrong place to many fingers not enough beer .burrrrrp pardon me LOL

IF YOU EVER NEED SOME DRIED HOP PELLETS por i can always post you some.

I thought it might be a typo.

Thanks for the offer, I'll bear that in mind for next time - I've got a couple of CSA kits in the cupboard!

[sparky Paul]

I'm drinking a bottle of Sparkling Ale as I type, which was made with 1.5Kg of light DME and 300g of glucose, with the addition of some Saaz hops as directed by DaaB.

It's been in the bottle for quite a long time now, and I have to say that it has turned into an excellent beer, very nice indeed. For a lighter coloured beer, it has a complex flavour that is very appealing. If I had to mark it down, it would only be for head retention - I'm going to try adding PGA powder next time, to see if it has any effect. Even if it doesn't, it's still a fantastic strong Pale Ale.

[torchwood brewery]

hey there sparky whats PGA powder ?

also if you want you can make the same recepie as you are supping now but increase the bill of extract to this .

COOPERS SA tin
1.5 kg light malt extract
500g light spray malt
500g dextrose
250g cornsyrup
steep 20g pride of ringwood 10 mins to balance sweatness
and then dry hop secondardy with 40g saaz

now you have a coopers vintage dinner ale at around 6.5%
cellar for 12 months min .

its a cracker.
over here its very expensive and it cellars for eons.

richard

[sparky Paul]

Sounds like a fine recipe, and quite potent!

hey there sparky whats PGA powder ?

Heading powder, or Polypropylene Alginate to give it its proper name, apparently. Added at the time of bottling for improved head retention.