Who is and who is not

[SteveD]

Another shout out for the balance. A well balanced beer is many times greater than the sum of it's individual malt, hop, yeast and water characters, no?

Wilbur is very true when he talks about the hop monsters you can get in the states. There's a mode of thinking that more is better, especially with hops. There are beers here with 100+ IBUS that are given an automatic reverence. They get respected as competitive tools with which to out IBU everyone else.

It's an I-can-drink-more-IBUs-than-you mentality. A 'Dude, that's eXtReMe!' rather than a 'Bloody nice pint!' attitude.

I know what you mean. I don't quite understand the reverence the monsterbraus get - How to get the revered beer?....just chuck more hops that are more bitter in than anyone else. Not difficult. How to get a beer that is supremely balanced like good London Pride, or Timothy Taylor Landlord of old....now that takes real skill and is far more worthy of reverence.

Is it a manifestation of the American qualities of competetiveness and a 'more is more' attitude?

[torchwood brewery]

but then some hops are quite sickly and some very tasty .
i have had some craftbeers here in aus made buy hophead deamons and drank a glass went yuk and projected a big hewy on there rubber plants.
balance is the key i think but a bit more hop bite some times is nice on a realy hot day it can be quite refreshing.

simcoe are rated here this years crop at 12 aau but if you dry hop them at 2.5g / ltr they give a real nice passionfruit aroma and flavour without much extra bittering. i was very surprised. great in an amber say at around 4.8%

served icey cold on a summers night.

im a hop head now but only have one horn not two like hop head deamons.

richard

[andypettitt62]

I like a hoppy beer. I could drink Badger Champion for the rest of my life and be happy (hoppy).Does anyone have a recipe for it as I'd like to give it a go.It uses elderflower, and there seems to be planty around at the moment.

[flytact]

I go back and forth, my three latest beers have been malty and balanced. Later this summer I'm going to brew a couple hop bombs. I'll go as bitter as it gets until I start tasting grass. That's my limit.
Two favorites: Bell's Two-hearted and Three Floyd's Alpha King. Both sensational.

[Wilbur]

Is it a manifestation of the American qualities of competetiveness and a 'more is more' attitude?

Actually the vast majority of Americans are more like our English cousins, unfortunately you never see us as we rarely make it on TV. You guys see a parade of our Hollywood elite and the so called upper crust of American Society, not really the best example of real America.

Back to the topic, I see the hop head revolution as more of a liberal in your face attitude, I don't mean liberal in the political sense just liberal in the anything goes sense.

[monk]

Actually the vast majority of Americans are more like our English cousins, unfortunately you never see us as we rarely make it on TV. You guys see a parade of our Hollywood elite and the so called upper crust of American Society, not really the best example of real America.

Yes, I am certainly part of the lower crust and not normally featured on television.

[delboy]

Is it a manifestation of the American qualities of competetiveness and a 'more is more' attitude?

Actually the vast majority of Americans are more like our English cousins, unfortunately you never see us as we rarely make it on TV. You guys see a parade of our Hollywood elite and the so called upper crust of American Society, not really the best example of real America.

Back to the topic, I see the hop head revolution as more of a liberal in your face attitude, I don't mean liberal in the political sense just liberal in the anything goes sense.

Good point, its all to easy to accept sterotypes spoon fed to us by the media.