The forum for discussing all kinds of brewing paraphernalia.
-
darkonnis
Post
by darkonnis » Sun Jul 14, 2013 11:43 am
Don't suppose you have a photo of your filter do ye? I'm interested to see what kind of gear you need for the larger brew sizes is all
Lard has just made mine for me (and I am excited

) so after it arrives I'm gonna have a go at clogging it next time the FV is free
-
john luc
- Lost in an Alcoholic Haze
- Posts: 671
- Joined: Thu Jul 08, 2010 11:04 pm
Post
by john luc » Sun Jul 14, 2013 1:15 pm
Has any one here had any success using a hop bag in the Kettle to hold hop pellets. I have a hop sock that I did not use but looking at it the holes in it don't look tight enough to hold back pellet hops.
-
greenxpaddy
Post
by greenxpaddy » Sun Jul 14, 2013 9:36 pm
darkonnis wrote:Don't suppose you have a photo of your filter do ye? I'm interested to see what kind of gear you need for the larger brew sizes is all
Lard has just made mine for me (and I am excited

) so after it arrives I'm gonna have a go at clogging it next time the FV is free
It's 5 to 6 metres of braided hose round a copper coil to maintain shape and position. Works perfectly in normal conditions.
Latest thinking is the recirculated wort needs a diffuser when it goes back into the boiler plus might be good to go in straight down the middle. I still want no cold break in the fermenter. I have a feeling the cold break starts sticking to the filter during recirculation. Consequently I am thinking it will be necessary to use a secondary outlet to feed the plate chiller and use the filter only at the end.
-
darkonnis
Post
by darkonnis » Tue Jul 16, 2013 12:07 pm
Guessing you just do hops paddy and not pellets?
Well MrLard heard my woes and sent me this:
That is in my 80L boiler, it has 3x the surface area of its little brother (26cm) and should now, never clog

-
greenxpaddy
Post
by greenxpaddy » Tue Jul 16, 2013 12:08 pm
Have you used it yet?
-
greenxpaddy
Post
by greenxpaddy » Tue Jul 16, 2013 12:09 pm
Here's my 6m filter

-
darkonnis
Post
by darkonnis » Tue Jul 16, 2013 12:17 pm
Haven't had chance yet mate it has literally just arrived. Looking forward to it though!
Hows the micro going anyway?
-
greenxpaddy
Post
by greenxpaddy » Tue Jul 16, 2013 3:20 pm
Still ironing lots of niggles out you know how it is. Always some improvement you can make!
Here's my latest idea for removing cold break using a plate chiller HE. Hoping the filters wont get blocked during cooling though

-
john luc
- Lost in an Alcoholic Haze
- Posts: 671
- Joined: Thu Jul 08, 2010 11:04 pm
Post
by john luc » Tue Jul 16, 2013 7:19 pm
As I read your drawing I am assuming that after you have cooled down the hot wort in the main kettle you then use a separate out port in the centre of the kettle to transfer the cooled wort to the Fermenting vessel. Looking at what you have here,how do you start the flow through the pump and would the 2 pipes that are drawing the wort out of the kettle not be slowed down by both feeding into the splitter with the same size pipe feeding the chiller.
-
mrlard
Post
by mrlard » Tue Jul 16, 2013 8:11 pm
greenxpaddy
loving the diagram
alternatively buy a conical and dump it all out the bottom

-
darkonnis
Post
by darkonnis » Wed Jul 17, 2013 1:42 pm
Is cold break really that much of an issue to your beers? Mine are pretty clear and I don't filter, couldn't crash cool and don't fine. Seems odd that this has become such an issue as to going to these extreme lengths.
Why not just get a pan 1/5th the size of the boiler and put some mesh in to filter? Essentially a hop back? Surely that'd do the trick?
-
greenxpaddy
Post
by greenxpaddy » Wed Jul 17, 2013 10:36 pm
darkonnis wrote:Is cold break really that much of an issue to your beers? Mine are pretty clear and I don't filter, couldn't crash cool and don't fine. Seems odd that this has become such an issue as to going to these extreme lengths.
Why not just get a pan 1/5th the size of the boiler and put some mesh in to filter? Essentially a hop back? Surely that'd do the trick?
Yes. My beers have never had cold break in the fermenter. If they did they wouldn't be the same as the beers I already have a reputation for...'house style' if you will. Not sure why mesh would help when it doesnt so far. It appears its hop leaves on the filter which stops cold break getting into the FV not the filter. John Luc, I will start a syphon to get it going.
-
darkonnis
Post
by darkonnis » Wed Jul 17, 2013 11:44 pm
greenxpaddy wrote:It appears its hop leaves on the filter which stops cold break getting into the FV not the filter.
Which is what I was getting at.... A hop back. Though your earlier beers wouldn't be same I suppose.
I might have a go at a side by side test with and without cold break to see what difference to flavour it makes.
-
Belter
Post
by Belter » Thu Jul 18, 2013 6:43 am
darkonnis wrote:Guessing you just do hops paddy and not pellets?
Well MrLard heard my woes and sent me this:
That is in my 80L boiler, it has 3x the surface area of its little brother (26cm) and should now, never clog

Woah! That thing is huge!
-
greenxpaddy
Post
by greenxpaddy » Thu Jul 18, 2013 11:33 am
darkonnis wrote:greenxpaddy wrote:It appears its hop leaves on the filter which stops cold break getting into the FV not the filter.
Which is what I was getting at.... A hop back. Though your earlier beers wouldn't be same I suppose.
I might have a go at a side by side test with and without cold break to see what difference to flavour it makes.
Slightly limits the late additions for me and becomes more mainstream.....that's the way the big brewers make beer....
My method is not difficult to create
£8 length of copper bit of silicon tubing and braided hose i have anyway.... got to be worth a go!