Baird's Malt

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Baird's Malt

Post by oz11 » Mon Nov 18, 2013 2:36 pm

Hi

Is anyone using Baird's MO/Pale Malt at the moment, or has used it and moved away from it?

Brewery brokers are offering "pale ale" malt at £480/tonne excl. VAT and delivery but that seems pretty cheap. Their MO by comparison is £538/tonne. Any of the pro-brewers that come on here given it a try?

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Re: Baird's Malt

Post by stuartmclu » Mon Nov 18, 2013 9:22 pm

using Bairds MO at the moment, but it's actually a 50/50 mix of pale and MO. It still works reasonably well in maltier beers such as 80/- and gives a decent body to a Pale Ale. I used to use 100% MO until the price went sky high. I have inadvertently acquired 200kg pale malt, which I'm not too happy about using, but it might do for a Bitter or Pale Ale.

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Post by roscoe » Tue Nov 26, 2013 1:00 am

apart from having a relative in a brewery is there any local(scottish) suppliers you could buy say 100kg Bairds (or Crisps) MO without incurring a £30++ delivery charge ??

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Re: Baird's Malt

Post by oz11 » Tue Nov 26, 2013 10:01 am

I have just returned to this topic... I love that stuartmclu joined in 2007, but that his first ever post was in reply to this...thanks :)

Sorry roscoe, can't help, what with being at the other end of the uk :(

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Re: Baird's Malt

Post by Dave S » Tue Nov 26, 2013 4:19 pm

oz11 wrote:Hi

Is anyone using Baird's MO/Pale Malt at the moment, or has used it and moved away from it?

Brewery brokers are offering "pale ale" malt at £480/tonne excl. VAT and delivery but that seems pretty cheap. Their MO by comparison is £538/tonne. Any of the pro-brewers that come on here given it a try?

Cheers!
I used Baird's for a while but found it was giving low extract, so moved to Warminster or Crisp, which are consistently good.
Best wishes

Dave

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Re: Baird's Malt

Post by crafty john » Tue Nov 26, 2013 5:30 pm

Dave S wrote:
oz11 wrote:Hi

Is anyone using Baird's MO/Pale Malt at the moment, or has used it and moved away from it?

Brewery brokers are offering "pale ale" malt at £480/tonne excl. VAT and delivery but that seems pretty cheap. Their MO by comparison is £538/tonne. Any of the pro-brewers that come on here given it a try?

Cheers!
I used Baird's for a while but found it was giving low extract, so moved to Warminster or Crisp, which are consistently good.
I used Bairds for a while but also suffered low extraction and the crush was a bit hit and miss, stick to fawcetts now.

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Re: Baird's Malt

Post by stuartmclu » Tue Nov 26, 2013 6:39 pm

roscoe wrote:apart from having a relative in a brewery is there any local(scottish) suppliers you could buy say 100kg Bairds (or Crisps) MO without incurring a £30++ delivery charge ??
You could try Simpsons in Berwick (Crisps sell by the ton). Why not ask your local brewer, if he's half-decent he'll sell for cost plus part of his delivery charge. If you're near Fife, I can oblige.

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Post by roscoe » Tue Nov 26, 2013 8:04 pm

Thanks for the tips.
So can you just drive up to Simpsons and buy 6 sacks of grain, or do you need to do all that account stuff. What kind of price would you guess for 25kg sacks of Simpsons MO.

roscoe

Re: Baird's Malt

Post by roscoe » Tue Nov 26, 2013 8:06 pm

I kinda thought that all the 'scottish' malt production was biased massively to whisky types of malt and the beer malts mostly came from England on the back of a truck.
I was hoping there was some local pale/MO about.

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Re: Baird's Malt

Post by stuartmclu » Wed Nov 27, 2013 6:41 pm

I stopped buying from Simpsons because they increased prices tremendously - under a ton is of no interest to them. Best thing is to phone them and ask them for a price. They may or may not deal with you and the price might be higher than going direct to Brupaks, but becaus postage is a killer for 100kg it might be worth a try. Brewing barley is malted in Scotland, but all my malt comes from England.

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Re: Baird's Malt

Post by WishboneBrewery » Fri Nov 29, 2013 8:20 am

We're currently using Bairds with their 'Fine Crushed Pale' which seems to be helping with the inconsistencies in their regular crushed malt where you can sometimes find loads of whole un-crushed grains.
If it was up to me I'd be using someone else for our malt.

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Re: Baird's Malt

Post by leedsbrew » Fri Nov 29, 2013 10:37 am

Fawcetts minimum order is 10 sacks, although that is for collection. You'd have to ring them to see if its different for palletised orders. They are very friendly and approachable so its worth a punt. Never had any problems with their malt or crush. You can specify a crush with them as well IIRC. I just get the standard/medium when we order.

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