muntons gold sweet or dry?

[Deebee]

Hi.

Has anyone tried this.

I made an " on the rocks apple cider" last year and although it turned out great it was a little too sweet for me.

I am an all grain bale brewer although a nice drop of cold cider is also good in the summer. However i like the drier stuff to be honest. I have no facilities or correct apple types here in norway to make cider so am dependant on kuts. Would the Muntons be an ok choice if i changed the yeast? If i change the yeast what would you suggest? I could add a few litres of juice to whatever kit to give it a little extra.

Alternatively does anyone have the name of a good kit i could buy that would give me the dry cider i want? I have tried Tc before and to be honest it was awful.... despite that the cost of juice etc in Norway is realtivelt expensive.

i hope to get this on in the next month so any help would be great.

thanks

[oldbloke]

I recently used Munton's Gold as part of a comparison of 4 yeasts in TC. It went all the way to dry and was well liked, some said almost like champagne! However the winner in that test was Young's Cider yeast.
But any yeast ought to go all the way to dry if allowed. Maybe your kit includes non-fermentable sweetener?

My TC recipe, which many people seem to think is good, is 630ml Suma AJ concentrate, 500ml cranberry juice, 1tsp tannin, 1tsp nutrient, yeast, water to 1 gallon (4.8l actually, in my demijohns).
Oh - in that test, each yeast was done in both dry and slightly sweetened versions, and in general the sweetened ones were preferred - just a little artificial sweetener (4tsp/gallon), enough to take the edge off the dryness but not to make it actually sweet.

[Deebee]

I recently used Munton's Gold as part of a comparison of 4 yeasts in TC. It went all the way to dry and was well liked, some said almost like champagne! However the winner in that test was Young's Cider yeast.
But any yeast ought to go all the way to dry if allowed. Maybe your kit includes non-fermentable sweetener?

My TC recipe, which many people seem to think is good, is 630ml Suma AJ concentrate, 500ml cranberry juice, 1tsp tannin, 1tsp nutrient, yeast, water to 1 gallon (4.8l actually, in my demijohns).
Oh - in that test, each yeast was done in both dry and slightly sweetened versions, and in general the sweetened ones were preferred - just a little artificial sweetener (4tsp/gallon), enough to take the edge off the dryness but not to make it actually sweet.

The last cider i did was called on the rocks and was nice but too sweet. I just ordered some youngs yeast but M looking for a cider kit that will be strongbow like dry.
Can the youngs yeast acheive this with the muntons?

[oldbloke]

Don't really know. I assume the kit has some non-fermentable sweetener either in the liquid or mixed in with the yeast (cider yeast is sold that way sometimes). Otherwise it'd come out dry. If it's in with the yeast, changing the yeast will get you dry cider. If it;s in the liquid, not much you can do. Email Munton's and ask is what I'd do.

[Deebee]

Mailed them last night. Will let you know.
The "on the rocks kit" has some flavour back sachet innit which initially leaves a chemically taste. This disperses over time.
I wonder if the muntons kit is more flavoursome.

[Deebee]

Mailed them last night. Will let you know.
The "on the rocks kit" has some flavour back sachet innit which initially leaves a chemically taste. This disperses over time.
I wonder if the muntons kit is more flavoursome.

Update.

Muntons say the yeast with the kit finished dry and that leaving the cider to mature for longer than the instructions gives a much better result.
they also say that replacing some of the water with pure juice 8 not from concentrate) will increase the quality but hat sulphides must be avaided. He says the yeast will not deal with an OG of over 1060.

i have got hold of some youngs cider yeast. how will this finish. 8 like i mentioned before i am thinking of something like strongbow/thorntons in regard to dryness...

[oldbloke]

Young's cider yeast gives a clean fairly crisp flavour, and pretty damn dry if you let it go all the way - in fact I add just a hint of artificial sweetener to take the edge off, lately
I may be misremembering, but Young's general purpose red wine yeast maybe seemed more Strongbowish last time I tried it
What size batches are you doing? I only do 2 demijohns at a time, usually, so it's easy to try different things to see how they come out.

[Deebee]

Young's cider yeast gives a clean fairly crisp flavour, and pretty damn dry if you let it go all the way - in fact I add just a hint of artificial sweetener to take the edge off, lately
I may be misremembering, but Young's general purpose red wine yeast maybe seemed more Strongbowish last time I tried it
What size batches are you doing? I only do 2 demijohns at a time, usually, so it's easy to try different things to see how they come out.

going to be 20 litres. I only have one FV available.

I think i will make it up with some apple juice and can always liquor back if it comes in over 1060