Recreating Boddingtons

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Re: Recreating Boddingtons

Post by Billb » Tue Jan 07, 2014 4:51 pm

Thanks Clibit... you saved me a while poking about on Google maps :-)

Likewise, I agree this is a very interesting experiment. It shows that there's quite a lot to head-retention. It's obviously not just about shoving some wheat in there.

I still haven't got around to doing my Boddingtons brewing yet. Too much Xmas ale to drink up! :-) Hic!

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Re: Recreating Boddingtons

Post by PhilB » Tue Jan 07, 2014 8:38 pm

Hi
Clibit wrote: ... the brewery was on the other side of the ring road from Victoria - close to it, but the MEN Arena now sits between them and I can't imagine the conditioning beer was shaken about by trains at that distance sorry!
... fair enough ... I suppose that's not how they would have got that smooth head in their cask beer then ... but that needn't stop Bill from trying it, if that's what he was after :?

Just to be clear ... my "experiment" wasn't about trying to improve head formation/retention. That was just a happy, accidental side-effect :wink: ... I was just trying to produce an IPA, the old fashioned way :?

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Re: Recreating Boddingtons

Post by Clibit » Tue Jan 07, 2014 8:49 pm

Maybe it was just an accidental side effect, but when I have a stab at Boddies I will be sticking it in the boot and taking it for a spin :-D - past the old brewery [-o< of course, which is only about 3 miles from my humble abode.

Prior to that, I would love to track down the yeast Boddies used, if still available anywhere. I know the 1318 is rumoured to originate from Strangeways. I think the yeast must be a major factor. At least my water is likely to be similar, piped down from Lakeland as it has been for years.

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Re: Recreating Boddingtons

Post by PhilB » Wed Jan 08, 2014 11:14 am

Clibit wrote: ... when I have a stab at Boddies I will be sticking it in the boot and taking it for a spin :-D - past the old brewery [-o< of course, which is only about 3 miles from my humble abode.
... if you are going to try this ... I should just point out that you should make sure you tie that pressure barrel down tight ...
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... and you'll still find yourself driving around like you've got your Gran in the car, with her goldfish, in its bowl, on her knee :lol: :wink: :lol:

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Re: Recreating Boddingtons

Post by Clibit » Sat Jan 11, 2014 1:11 am

I might stick it on the roof and drive past Strangeways at processional speed. :boff:

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Re: Recreating Boddingtons

Post by Billb » Sat Jan 11, 2014 8:41 am

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Re: Recreating Boddingtons

Post by critch » Fri Jan 17, 2014 4:08 pm

reckon most of seymours historic recipes are herehttp://kotmf.com/articles/1500ukbeers.doc the recipe for the boddies goes with those ratios. higgies had a rather large hop blend too! recon theyre fairly acurate as the higgies grist pretty much matches the real brewery log books i got my hands on

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Re: Recreating Boddingtons

Post by Dave S » Fri Jan 17, 2014 4:53 pm

critch wrote:reckon most of seymours historic recipes are herehttp://kotmf.com/articles/1500ukbeers.doc the recipe for the boddies goes with those ratios. higgies had a rather large hop blend too! recon theyre fairly acurate as the higgies grist pretty much matches the real brewery log books i got my hands on
Interesting list. I remember Higson's bitter with great affection and was most upset when they were taken over. I'm struggling with some of the abbreviations though. I'm guessing X in the grain bills is crystal. But in the hop bills, either BX or BC is Bramling Cross, but what would the other be?
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Re: Recreating Boddingtons

Post by orlando » Fri Jan 17, 2014 5:18 pm

Dave S wrote: I'm struggling with some of the abbreviations though. I'm guessing X in the grain bills is crystal. But in the hop bills, either BX or BC is Bramling Cross, but what would the other be?
There is a key at the top, which ones are you struggling with. X is crystal, BX is Bramling cross according to the key.
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Re: Recreating Boddingtons

Post by Dave S » Fri Jan 17, 2014 5:28 pm

orlando wrote:
Dave S wrote: I'm struggling with some of the abbreviations though. I'm guessing X in the grain bills is crystal. But in the hop bills, either BX or BC is Bramling Cross, but what would the other be?
There is a key at the top, which ones are you struggling with. X is crystal, BX is Bramling cross according to the key.
That'll teach me to read more thoroughly in future :oops:
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Re: Recreating Boddingtons

Post by orlando » Fri Jan 17, 2014 5:30 pm

Dave S wrote:
orlando wrote:
Dave S wrote: I'm struggling with some of the abbreviations though. I'm guessing X in the grain bills is crystal. But in the hop bills, either BX or BC is Bramling Cross, but what would the other be?
There is a key at the top, which ones are you struggling with. X is crystal, BX is Bramling cross according to the key.
That'll teach me to read more thoroughly in future :oops:
:oops: I'm the last person to pick up others on that score.
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Re: Recreating Boddingtons

Post by critch » Fri Jan 17, 2014 6:11 pm

Dave S wrote: Interesting list. I remember Higson's bitter with great affection and was most upset when they were taken over.
its amazing, i had plenty of people tell me my higsons wasnt as strong or as hoppy, mine was 1.041 instead of 1.038 and 40 ibu's instead of 33, a lot of higgies distinctiveness came from the triploid yeast strain (brewlabs actually hold some!)and the water which i couldnt totally recreate :cry:

i loved higgies too first pint in a pub i ever had(at 14!)

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Re: Recreating Boddingtons

Post by Dave S » Fri Jan 17, 2014 7:58 pm

critch wrote:
Dave S wrote: Interesting list. I remember Higson's bitter with great affection and was most upset when they were taken over.
its amazing, i had plenty of people tell me my higsons wasnt as strong or as hoppy, mine was 1.041 instead of 1.038 and 40 ibu's instead of 33, a lot of higgies distinctiveness came from the triploid yeast strain (brewlabs actually hold some!)and the water which i couldnt totally recreate :cry:

i loved higgies too first pint in a pub i ever had(at 14!)
You delinquent! Come to think, I had my first pint in a pub at 14 too :oops: I'll have to have a go at brewing some. On the memory front, it's funny how it can totally recreate what actually happened.
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Re: Recreating Boddingtons

Post by Dave S » Fri Jan 17, 2014 8:02 pm

orlando wrote:
There is a key at the top, which ones are you struggling with. X is crystal, BX is Bramling cross according to the key.
That'll teach me to read more thoroughly in future :oops:[/quote]

:oops: I'm the last person to pick up others on that score.[/quote]

Yes, I've noticed that about you Orlando :D
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Re: Recreating Boddingtons

Post by critch » Tue Jan 21, 2014 11:50 am

Dave S wrote:: I'll have to have a go at brewing some. On the memory front, it's funny how it can totally recreate what actually happened.
i redid the mild too but upped it to 1.035 instead of 1.032 (it was easier to sell at 3.6 than 3.2) it came out quite well, but no one wanted it in liverpool cos of the dreaded M word :roll: sold well to our contacts in derbyshire though!

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