I have just done my first all grain brew, following DaaB's excellent mini mash recipe and I have 10 bottles in the garage maturing - cheers, DaaB!.
Next up I would like to try the Styrian Stunner but as a mini mash. There's a couple of grain bills in various posts, one for 23litre, one for 46litres - but the 46litre is not double the 23litre, and scaling for 5litres does not give the 1.1kg of grain as used in DaaB's MM, so I guess there's some efficient factor which I am not, err, factoring in. Could anyone give me some pointers for the grain required and hop quantities (i've got the gold foil Styrians for Hop&Grape, 3.8% AA).
Cheers,
Dave
Styrian Stunner mini mash
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DaveR
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J_P
Hi Dave
I recently brewed a 23l batch of this and it smelled wonderful. I followed the recipe to the letter (after adjusting the hop quantities for varying AA%). Some folks like to add extra hops to thier brews and grain quantites used can vary quite considerably depending on how efficient folks are at extracting the sugar from the grain.
If the last lot turned out OK ie you had the required quantity of wort at the correct post boil gravity I'd keep the grain and water quantities the same and try and keep things as close to your original method as possible.
I messed up and ended up having to dilute my mini-mash to achieve the required volume and a gravity that was within the target range. That said after 9 days in primary it tasted fantastic!
As for hop quantities I used the same quantities as advised on Daabs pages, with hindsight I'd have worked out the bittering units I wanted and then worked out the quantities accordingly. As it turns out I now have a minimash made with fuggles that will be more bitter than one made with Goldings. As previously mentioned though they tastyed the part which, at the end of the day is what it's about.
Keep us posted and remember the folks round here like pictures - lots of pictures!
I recently brewed a 23l batch of this and it smelled wonderful. I followed the recipe to the letter (after adjusting the hop quantities for varying AA%). Some folks like to add extra hops to thier brews and grain quantites used can vary quite considerably depending on how efficient folks are at extracting the sugar from the grain.
If the last lot turned out OK ie you had the required quantity of wort at the correct post boil gravity I'd keep the grain and water quantities the same and try and keep things as close to your original method as possible.
I messed up and ended up having to dilute my mini-mash to achieve the required volume and a gravity that was within the target range. That said after 9 days in primary it tasted fantastic!
As for hop quantities I used the same quantities as advised on Daabs pages, with hindsight I'd have worked out the bittering units I wanted and then worked out the quantities accordingly. As it turns out I now have a minimash made with fuggles that will be more bitter than one made with Goldings. As previously mentioned though they tastyed the part which, at the end of the day is what it's about.
Keep us posted and remember the folks round here like pictures - lots of pictures!
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DaveR
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Vossy1
Hi DavR,
The 46ltr batch is scaled to 80% efficiency which is the efficiency that I achieve from my set up
The original M Ollosson recipe is based on 75% efficiency and for 23ltrs it uses 4560g of pale malt
This would equate to 9120g for a 46ltr batch at 75%, but I use only 8550g because my system is more efficient at extracting the sugars from the grain...
Hope that's clear as mud
The 46ltr batch is scaled to 80% efficiency which is the efficiency that I achieve from my set up
The original M Ollosson recipe is based on 75% efficiency and for 23ltrs it uses 4560g of pale malt
This would equate to 9120g for a 46ltr batch at 75%, but I use only 8550g because my system is more efficient at extracting the sugars from the grain...
Hope that's clear as mud
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J_P
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J_P
Unless you're VossyDaab wrote:A rule of thumb says IBU/OG should equal 1 or less.
Marc lists the IBU level at 21 for the Styrian Stunner
If my GCSE in maths serves me correctly then the weight of the hops you need to generate 21 IBU's in 5litres of wort at 20% utilisation is about 13.8g.
I'm sure boil time has some bearing on this but I'm new to this game too and right now I'm just following recipes!
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J_P
So that's where I was going wrong!
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Vossy1
Ah, I get ya84% now that's some increase!
but they were aroma hops that don't add to IBU, well maybe not that much It slaps you round the face when you stick your nose in the glass...beautiful hop aroma which has not impacted on the bitterness...
I had a similar pint last night called Columbus..can't remember the brewery but this ale was marvelous, full of hops and soo citrussy but not too bitter
They did keep getting stuck between the teeth though
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J_P
With the amount of hops you put in it's a wonder you don't have to chew your pints . Mind you I lobbed the rest of the packet (46g iirc) of Styrians in when I turned the boiler off and that resulted in all the aroma coming back, yellow oil on top of the wort and the back room smells like hoppy grapefruit!
I used to think my favourite hop was the EKG but I have a feeling I may be won over by the Styrians.
. Mind you I lobbed the rest of the packet (46g iirc) of Styrians in when I turned the boiler off and that resulted in all the aroma coming back, yellow oil on top of the wort and the back room smells like hoppy grapefruit! I used to think my favourite hop was the EKG but I have a feeling I may be won over by the Styrians.
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Vossy1
