Single hop smoked stout with centennial

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Single hop smoked stout with centennial

Post by gibbiem » Mon Jun 30, 2014 1:49 pm

Will this work?

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Re: Single hop smoked stout with centennial

Post by Deebee » Tue Jul 01, 2014 9:28 am

well.... a local micro here made a stout with cascade and it was absolutely foul.

Stout is to my mind about the malt, roastiness and mothfeel. hops are there for bittering purposes only so i use Northowns, target, challenger or similar.

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Re: Single hop smoked stout with centennial

Post by gibbiem » Tue Jul 01, 2014 9:43 am

Yeah thats what i've read. This is the grain bill I'm thinking of using:

5.600 kg Maris Otter Malt (76.19%)
0.500 kg Peated Malt (6.8%)
0.350 kg Chocolate (4.76%)
0.350 kg Roasted Barley (4.76%)
0.300 kg Crystal 120 (4.08%)

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Re: Single hop smoked stout with centennial

Post by Deebee » Tue Jul 01, 2014 9:50 am

gibbiem wrote:Yeah thats what i've read. This is the grain bill I'm thinking of using:

5.600 kg Maris Otter Malt (76.19%)
0.500 kg Peated Malt (6.8%)
0.350 kg Chocolate (4.76%)
0.350 kg Roasted Barley (4.76%)
0.300 kg Crystal 120 (4.08%)
Again myown personal tast would add some flaked barley and some black malt in there.

Stout grist is generally ok, hopping with centennial.... sorry.

I think the reason i have gone off centennial and cascade beers is they are far too overused.
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Re: Single hop smoked stout with centennial

Post by gibbiem » Tue Jul 01, 2014 10:36 am

Ok mate, cheers for the input. Will be my first stout so glad I'm heading in the right direction.

I love the American C hops haha, cant help not using them! Gonna dry hop with amarillo too

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Re: Single hop smoked stout with centennial

Post by Deebee » Tue Jul 01, 2014 11:00 am

gibbiem wrote:Ok mate, cheers for the input. Will be my first stout so glad I'm heading in the right direction.

I love the American C hops haha, cant help not using them! Gonna dry hop with amarillo too

IMHO i think i am going to Spew:) :-& :wacko:
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Re: Single hop smoked stout with centennial

Post by gibbiem » Tue Jul 01, 2014 11:02 am

hahahaha! I wont send you a bottle then. Anyone else have an opinion on this? dont worry, I'm not the sulking type, I can take it

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Re: Single hop smoked stout with centennial

Post by Deebee » Tue Jul 01, 2014 11:07 am

gibbiem wrote:hahahaha! I wont send you a bottle then. Anyone else have an opinion on this? dont worry, I'm not the sulking type, I can take it
my idea of a stout is this.

61% pale
18 % flaked barley
7.5 % carafa III
4.6% carapils
4% raosted barley
3% black
1.5% chocolate

northdown to 36 IBU at start
Done!
Sits at around 5.5% but having a slightly longer mash helps ( mash at 64-65 too)
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Re: Single hop smoked stout with centennial

Post by gibbiem » Tue Jul 01, 2014 11:09 am

See that seems a bit boring for me. What sort of commercial stout would that compare to?

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Re: Single hop smoked stout with centennial

Post by Deebee » Tue Jul 01, 2014 11:20 am

gibbiem wrote:See that seems a bit boring for me. What sort of commercial stout would that compare to?
None.!

its roasty, doesnt adhere to style. Uses way too much roasted malt, but one of the guys in the local brewing circles home says all other stouts he has tasted are rather Poofy in comparison.''

Good we all have different tastes huh.

brew a small 10 l batch maybe of the one with centennial... not so bad if you need to drain it:)
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Re: Single hop smoked stout with centennial

Post by gibbiem » Tue Jul 01, 2014 11:30 am

I'm with you, so a pretty traditional stout? I was looking for something along the lines of this:

http://www.craftedpours.com/homebrew-re ... rew-recipe

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Re: Single hop smoked stout with centennial

Post by Deebee » Tue Jul 01, 2014 11:33 am

Thats a porter not a stout though.

If you look at bully porter then there is both cascade and Ahtanum in use but the malt is not as in your face.

A Stout is all about malt.
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Re: Single hop smoked stout with centennial

Post by gibbiem » Tue Jul 01, 2014 11:41 am

Ahhhh...... right, that makes more sense then. So its a porter I'm after. Never tried porter but seen a lot people throwing recipes about. I just thought it was a different name for the same thing! haha! cheers

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Re: Single hop smoked stout with centennial

Post by Hanglow » Tue Jul 01, 2014 12:27 pm

Lots of american stouts use c hops, Sierra Nevada stout is a classic example using cascade, there should be plenty of homebrew recipes out there for it. It's not in your face hoppyness though if that's what you are looking for. Rogue Shakespeare stout is another, that uses all cascade and there was a CYBI recipe for it on the brewing network site


I also prefer the likes of noble hops and british hops for stouts/porters, hallertau and ekg are good

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Re: Single hop smoked stout with centennial

Post by gibbiem » Tue Jul 01, 2014 12:46 pm

Yeah had a feeling it was going to be more of an American style than a traditional Guinness style. Think I'm in a better place now and have some adjustments to recipe to make, cheers for the advice

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