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by daf » Thu Aug 07, 2014 4:22 pm
Hi again.
I've 100g of 'Goldings' leaf hops, 5.26% alpha. Would this be sufficient for a single hop pale ale showing off its flavours?
I did a lovely one with 100% Nelson Sauvin from Greg Hughes's book which only used 70g, and that was fantastic - but obviously the Goldings are more subtle so your options are (based on me trying to get space in the freezer from the leftover hops):
- Do a 100% Goldings - 25g for the 90 min boil; 25g for the last 15 mins; 25g for the cube hop and 25g for the dry hop
Bitter it with 33g of Northern Brewer for the 90 minute boil, then all Goldings as above for the aroma
Just go for a mixed up IPA - bitter with Goldings and use up some of my American hops
Advice sought please!

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by Mr. Dripping » Thu Aug 07, 2014 4:53 pm
An all goldings beer is great. Very British; I would keep the grainbill simple.
100g of hops should give you enough bitterness for a 23 litre batch......have a play around with a bitterness calculator.
Goldings blends excellently with many of the American/Aussie hops.
I've done some crackers where I've used the US/Aus hop for the bittering addition and finished it with heaps of goldings (and maybe a few of the bittering hop too).
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by Fuggled Mind » Thu Aug 07, 2014 8:51 pm
I was thinking of the same thing. I just tried a shipyard IPA and it was quite a refreshing change from the citrus charged IPAs I normally try. That beer uses fuggles but I wondered if an IPA using goldings would be even better. Mind you, I'm curious about using a smidgen of brown malt and a low-coloured crystal to add a touch of flavour too.
If you go for it, let us know how it works out
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by millmaster » Thu Aug 07, 2014 9:37 pm
If you have, or can get a copy, check the Durden Park Beer Circle recipes - some of them suggest upto 3 oz ( 75g ) Golding per gallon of beer brewed as bittering hops. However, you need 6 months plus maturing time - bottle or barrel - for these brews.
I made the East India Pale Ale ( 3 oz Goldings per gallon ) and the Burton pale ale ( 2 oz Goldings per gallon ) both needed at least 6 months before drinking though
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by daf » Thu Aug 07, 2014 10:54 pm
I'm erring towards something English for sure, I will probably go for a darker bitter type with heavy tones of Goldings rather than a APA type, because I have a bucket of US IPA to be bottled so something different will be good.
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by Mr. Dripping » Thu Aug 07, 2014 11:28 pm
I'm drinking an all fuggle ESB at the moment. It's been a nice change to the US/Aus hopped beers I've brewed for the past couple of years it seems.
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by micmacmoc » Fri Aug 08, 2014 1:17 pm
There must be a good commercial example of a decent British 100% Goldings brew out there somewhere? I'm thinking of something like Morrels Varsity, dunno that it was 100% Goldings, but I always thought of it as a Goldings pint.
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by Mr. Dripping » Fri Aug 08, 2014 3:11 pm
Timothy Taylors Best Bitter is all goldings IIRC.
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daf
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by daf » Fri Aug 08, 2014 4:58 pm
I've no English Ale Yeast so I'm keeping the Goldings for now and doing another IPA type....new thread!
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by scuppeteer » Sat Aug 09, 2014 11:28 pm
micmacmoc wrote:There must be a good commercial example of a decent British 100% Goldings brew out there somewhere
Gadds (Ramsgate Brewery) No. 3 is all East Kent Goldings. In my opinion one of the best you will ever find. Might be a bit tricky to get hold of your way as they claim to not serve it outside of Kent. Worth a trip up here just to try it I reckon.

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by Dave S » Sun Aug 10, 2014 6:12 pm
Mr. Dripping wrote:Timothy Taylors Best Bitter is all goldings IIRC.
Yes it is according to BYOBRA. It uses 42g for 90 mins and a further 14 for the last 10 mins in a 23l brew.
Best wishes
Dave
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by TC2642 » Sun Aug 10, 2014 6:29 pm
If you want a closer historical style it would be worth putting a lot of hops in. My IPA book suggests upwards of 150gms or more for 23ltrs.
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by mozza » Sun Aug 10, 2014 10:56 pm
micmacmoc wrote:There must be a good commercial example of a decent British 100% Goldings brew out there somewhere? I'm thinking of something like Morrels Varsity, dunno that it was 100% Goldings, but I always thought of it as a Goldings pint.
Westerham brewery British bulldog is all EKG. And the yeast in the bottle is a unique dual strain that I'm obsessed with currently! Worth buying a bottle

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