Brew Number Two : Whippin' Woodforde Woes with Great Eastern

Discuss making up beer kits - the simplest way to brew.
fivetide

Post by fivetide » Tue May 08, 2007 3:02 pm

Sadly it was definitely air, not suspended CO2, as the beer was basically running down half the pipe rather than filling out the pipe and racking with no air involved. :cry: :cry:

I really want to purge the thing too, no idea what's happened to that valve.

fivetide

Post by fivetide » Wed May 09, 2007 12:54 pm

The barrel had built up significant pressure today, so I vented all the gas in an attempt to purge any O2. This took over a minute and hopefully included all the oxygen in there.

I'll make sure the keg doesn't get moved in any way now so that a new CO2 blanket can build up over the next five days before I move it to the relative cool of the shed. Hope that sounds like a good move (too late now!)

BarryNL

Post by BarryNL » Wed May 09, 2007 4:28 pm

fivetide wrote:The barrel had built up significant pressure today, so I vented all the gas in an attempt to purge any O2. This took over a minute and hopefully included all the oxygen in there.
Despite all the worry about aeration during bottling/kegging I'm sceptical about how much of a problem it really is. I mean, you're basically adding sugar so the yeast will spring back into life and fairly quickly convert any oxygen they can get hold of into CO2 anyway.

I suspect the yeast mop up any oxygen before it can affect the beer too much. I'll have to experiment with a couple of bottles actually when I next bottle to see if I can tell the difference with a deliberately oxygenated one.

BarryNL

Post by BarryNL » Wed May 09, 2007 4:34 pm

DaaB wrote:You can be pretty rough when bottling I find but when racking to a keg/barrel you need to be much more carefull.
Does that still apply if you're priming with sugar/spray malt, or is it only a problem if you're using a CO2 system for pressurising/carbonation?

I can certainly see that if you don't add any sugar then the yeast will not be able to use up the oxygen.

fivetide

Post by fivetide » Wed May 09, 2007 5:35 pm

I racked from secondary too, so there was probably even less yeast present.

I did use 90g of light spraymalt, I guess I'll have to wait and see. Hope it's okay because I've showered a lot of love on it :)

fivetide

Post by fivetide » Mon May 14, 2007 8:29 pm

Well this Great Eastern Cascade is now in the cool of the shed.

Old Jake - you started yours at the same time, how's the conditioning?

I've been more patient with this one than the Wherry. If it's a patch on that I'll be pleased, despite a few problems along the way:

-Put in fermenter - 17th April
-Put into secondary with dry hops 13 days later - 30th April
-Put into keg in warm eight days later - 8th May
-Moved into shed after six days - 14th May

I'll give it a tester in two weeks (28th May) and if all is well will pour off the first pint a week after that (4th June) when I place another order online and remember to get the sparklet adapter thingy.

One day I'll get my CO2 sorted out for the lonely Cornis...

fivetide

Post by fivetide » Sat Jun 23, 2007 12:13 am

Well, it's a top drop and no mistake!

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Cleared beautifully...

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fivetide

Post by fivetide » Sat Jun 23, 2007 10:03 am

Yup, it's lovely. It would be better colder in the sunshine, but the barrel is in the shed which is about 18 degrees now sadly. And I have no fridge to accomodate kegs.

But other than that a real winner which I will do again. Quite hoppy even with just a week with a 1oz cascade hop bag, so I'd recommend less time/weight for the less hoppy headed.

I'm hoping the Midas will prove similarly succesful.

fivetide

Post by fivetide » Sat Jun 23, 2007 1:12 pm

Initially I really liked the idea of a pure malt 3Kg or 3.6Kg kit and didn't mind paying the extra for good results. I suppose it was partly due to misguided memories of old fashioned kits from my youth that needed a lot of added sugar which put me off modern kits that use the same technique. I realise now from many many posts about some of these that they are pretty good these days and my thoughts were probably dated, but there you go.

Secondly, after the initial 'Wherry Worry' my first effort produced such an enjoyable pint, I thought I'd persevere and things have continued to go well.

Lastly of course, I'm an East Anglian boy and I enjoy these hoppy light ales and golden bitters. I hope to be sampling a few of my favourite commercial efforts from Brandon, Earl Soham, Nethergate and Mighty Oak breweries this evening!

fivetide

Post by fivetide » Tue Jul 24, 2007 11:49 pm

And there it was gone! I'll miss it.

A brilliant brew, if anyone fancies it. Nice citrus dry hop with lengthy conditioning. Absolutely brilliant, crystal clear tasty summer pints.

Anyway, sad to see it go, here's the last pint with my last pickled egg!

More of both in September I hope :)

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Chris The Fish

Post by Chris The Fish » Wed Jul 25, 2007 6:47 pm

nice glass too.

very stylish without being overengineered.

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