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Re: JBK Own IPA/ALE

Post by byronb » Thu Dec 18, 2014 1:03 pm

Jim wrote:Bittering hops Challenger to 50 IBU
Is that 50IBU total or just for the Challenger? If just the Challenger, with the Progress and EKG BeerSmith estimates around 62IBUs total (22.7L recipe)

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Re: JBK Own IPA/ALE

Post by Jim » Thu Dec 18, 2014 1:09 pm

byronb wrote:
Jim wrote:Bittering hops Challenger to 50 IBU
Is that 50IBU total or just for the Challenger? If just the Challenger, with the Progress and EKG BeerSmith estimates around 62IBUs total (22.7L recipe)
Just for the challenger. I know that if you put late hops into most bitterness calculators they appear to add quite a bit of bittereness, but in my experience it doesn't happen like that and what you mainly get is a fresh hop flavour and very little (perceptible) base bitterness.
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Re: JBK Own IPA/ALE

Post by Padalac » Thu Dec 18, 2014 1:10 pm

looking forward to makin this

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Re: JBK Own IPA/ALE

Post by Deebee » Thu Dec 18, 2014 1:55 pm

Me too. need progress though goddammit... and with no job... could be a while before I get this done. jim, can you make this a sticky?
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Re: JBK Own IPA/ALE

Post by Jim » Thu Dec 18, 2014 2:11 pm

Good idea. Topic is now a sticky.
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Re: JBK Own IPA/ALE

Post by oakerspocus » Thu Dec 18, 2014 7:59 pm

Right...time to check stocks for a xmas brew day...

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Re: JBK Own IPA/ALE

Post by Jim » Thu Dec 18, 2014 8:34 pm

This is going to be my first brew of 2015 - I need to order some stuff and my brew fridge is going to be co-opted into service for xmas food. :)
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Re: JBK Own IPA/ALE

Post by ArmChair » Fri Dec 19, 2014 10:41 am

are we mashing at 67c?
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Re: JBK Own IPA/ALE

Post by Jim » Fri Dec 19, 2014 10:51 am

ArmChair wrote:are we mashing at 67c?
Yes, that would make sense.
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Re: JBK Own IPA/ALE

Post by simmyb » Fri Dec 19, 2014 7:29 pm

Definately doing this over Xmas...

If the choice of yeast is open, should mash temp be too? I had planned to use Fullers Yeast and would probably want to mash a little cooler to offset the lower attenuation? If not, I’ve got some Scottish Ale yeast I could use I guess....
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Conditioning : AG137 Mosaic Pale Ale
Drinking: AG131 London Bitter, AG132 Yorkshire Bitter, AG133 Guinnish, AG134 Witbier, AG135 Challenger Pale Ale, AG136 Kveik IPA,
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Re: JBK Own IPA/ALE

Post by Jim » Fri Dec 19, 2014 7:40 pm

simmyb wrote:Definately doing this over Xmas...

If the choice of yeast is open, should mash temp be too? I had planned to use Fullers Yeast and would probably want to mash a little cooler to offset the lower attenuation? If not, I’ve got some Scottish Ale yeast I could use I guess....
Feel free to play with mash temp if you like - as you say, best mash temp to get a balanced result will depend on your choice of yeast. However, also bear in mind that it is quite a well hopped beer.
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Re: JBK Own IPA/ALE

Post by WalesAles » Sat Dec 20, 2014 3:09 pm

ArmChair wrote:
I also don't mind sampling other peoples ESB,
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Re: JBK Own IPA/ALE

Post by ArmChair » Sat Dec 20, 2014 4:33 pm

WalesAles wrote:
ArmChair wrote:
I also don't mind sampling other peoples ESB,
Armchair,
What a great way to get lots of FREE Beer! :D =D>

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FV1 AG#95 Farwell Freddy
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2014 - 719
2015 - 726
2016 - 74
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Re: JBK Own IPA/ALE

Post by Deebee » Sat Dec 20, 2014 4:58 pm

I do 5hi k that jim should get a taster of each though...
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Re: JBK Own IPA/ALE

Post by simmyb » Fri Dec 26, 2014 8:50 pm

All set for 'Jim's ESB' tomorrow morning.

4600g Maris Otter
270g Caramalt
270g Pale Crystal
270g Torrefied Wheat

55g Challenger @ First Wort
40g Progress @10mins
40g EKG @ Flame Out, 30 mins steep

Fullers Yeast, Mash @66C for 60mins

Water treated to Grahams 'Bitter' profile

This is not a million miles away from my House Best Bitter (the main difference being the use of Progress which I have not used before) which I had planned to brew over xmas anyway, so really looking forward to comparing Jim's ESB to a beer I know well.

Fingers crossed for a smooth brew day! :D
Primary : AG138 Amarillo Pale Ale
Conditioning : AG137 Mosaic Pale Ale
Drinking: AG131 London Bitter, AG132 Yorkshire Bitter, AG133 Guinnish, AG134 Witbier, AG135 Challenger Pale Ale, AG136 Kveik IPA,
Planning: Perle faux lager

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