Wherry & coopers lager questions

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Tutu

Wherry & coopers lager questions

Post by Tutu » Tue Jul 17, 2007 2:23 pm

My Wherry smells like vinegar I'm guessing it's an infection since there's seem little sediment in the bottom of the bin where as the coopers lager was set off 2 days lager and has considerable sediment in the bottom.

I'm sure I read some posts on here about Wherry having a slightly vinegar smell with certain waters I live in Leicester I think we have hard water (Limescale in my kettle). I was wondering what others experience was, I'm pretty certain it's gone :-( (My 3rd brew and first Wherry).

The Coopers lager (Made with geordie's beer enhancer) has been in the primary 8 days (Was going to give it 6 days but every morning the lid was expanded with co2 until yesterday) can I leave it in the primary for a few more days (Assuming I did a better job of cleaning the bin of course)?

Would it be alright to let it clear in the primary before bottling/kegging (Thinking of getting a corny)?

Would I need to add yeast to the bottles to condition if I've let the beer clear first? I'd force carbonate if I used a corny so I could move the keg.

delboy

Re: Wherry & coopers lager questions

Post by delboy » Tue Jul 17, 2007 4:10 pm

Tutu wrote:My Wherry smells like vinegar I'm guessing it's an infection since there's seem little sediment in the bottom of the bin where as the coopers lager was set off 2 days lager and has considerable sediment in the bottom.

I'm sure I read some posts on here about Wherry having a slightly vinegar smell with certain waters I live in Leicester I think we have hard water (Limescale in my kettle). I was wondering what others experience was, I'm pretty certain it's gone :-( (My 3rd brew and first Wherry).

The Coopers lager (Made with geordie's beer enhancer) has been in the primary 8 days (Was going to give it 6 days but every morning the lid was expanded with co2 until yesterday) can I leave it in the primary for a few more days (Assuming I did a better job of cleaning the bin of course)?

Would it be alright to let it clear in the primary before bottling/kegging (Thinking of getting a corny)?

Would I need to add yeast to the bottles to condition if I've let the beer clear first? I'd force carbonate if I used a corny so I could move the keg.
DaaBs answered the first one.

The coppers will be fine in the primary for a good few days yet and the longer you leave it (within reason ie a few weeks) it will probably improve.

Leaving it in the primary will also let it clear more as well.

If the beer has been left for a very extended period (ie in a secondary for say months) it may need some supplemention with yeast.
For a few weeks sitting in primary i don't think you should worry (there should still be plenty of yeast in suspension even if it appears clear).

I force carbonate in cornies, have to say that if i move the keg about much i end up with cloudy beer (normally settles back down again over a few days though).
To get crystal clear beer in the cornie (sans sediment) you could probably use a good dose of finings in the bucket before putting it in the cornie, an extended period in a secondary fermentor would also be benefical or even crash cooling in a fridge which increases yeast flocullation/sedimentation.
Someone else on here might have more experience of acheiving a crystal clear beer for cornie dispense so i'll let them field that one.

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Post by CrownCap » Tue Jul 17, 2007 5:27 pm

My current brew (Smugglers Premium Ale) has a slight vinegar smell too after 4 days in primary. However there is no taste of it at all in a sample.

I simply put it down to my bad sense of smell during the summer due to hayfever :lol:
Next Up : Something for the summer
Primary : Nothing
Secondary / Conditioning : Nothing
Drinking : Mosaic IPA

Chris The Fish

Re: Wherry & coopers lager questions

Post by Chris The Fish » Tue Jul 17, 2007 6:30 pm

Where abouts in Leicester?

i live in leicester (well, stoney stanton) and dont have any problems using untreated tap water for my brewing. Im not a fussy drinker (yes, i will drink anything but cider! :evil: :evil: ) so a few mild weird notes generally go un-noticed after about 2-3 pints :lol:

id hang fire with the wherry, it may just be co2 mixing with some odd ball gases and i reckon you may be pleasantly surprised.

Tutu

Post by Tutu » Tue Jul 17, 2007 8:28 pm

It's definitely gone, as potent as malt vinegar. Yeast's not even tried no sediment in the tub at all. Pitched it at 23C so wouldn't have thought it would be a problem.

I'll get another Wherry and some fresh yeast this time.

Chris The Fish

Re: Wherry & coopers lager questions

Post by Chris The Fish » Tue Jul 17, 2007 9:00 pm

Chris The Fish wrote: i reckon you may be pleasantly surprised.
It's definitely gone, as potent as malt vinegar
ok, ok...

bet its nice vinegar! :wink:

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