Summer Saison

[Hanglow]

Yeah it's time to brew a nice (hopefully) saison for summer. This one will be fairly potent, will brew tomorrow and take pics hopefully



Yeast is Belle Saison, not the liquid one I have in the recipe

water profile - going for balanced


mash ph of around 5.3 hopefully, will need to add a bit of lactic acid

I might up the late hops, what do you think? Think pilgrim should work well

[jaroporter]

sounds good. it's a great yeast but i wouldn't be suprised if it attenuates a lot further than 1,010.

[Hanglow]

Yeah I've seen others using it getting down to 1.002 etc. I might brew it a bit longer so it's not quite as strong.

I'm thinking of using some different hops now too

[serum]

I'd also assume it'll get close to 1.002. You want to go sulphate heavy for a saison. I don't know pilgrim hops but that yeast will let whatever hops you use shine nicely.

[Hanglow]

Might bump up the sulphate a bit in the boil perhaps. Mash is on and I'm thinking of maybe bittering with the pilgrim then using some slovenian hops for flavour

Nice to be able to change recipe during the brew

[Hanglow]

Changed to

30g pilgrim first wort
50g Savinjski Golding, 2.5% flavour/aroma

[Clibit]

Sounds really good. I'm planning a rhubarb said on.

[serum]

Sounds really good. I'm planning a rhubarb said on.

I can see that being nice. Mind you the thornbridge one is pretty crap but I think it would be good if done well and with a decent yeast and carbonation. What are you thinking for your recipe?

[Clibit]

Sounds really good. I'm planning a rhubarb said on.

I can see that being nice. Mind you the thornbridge one is pretty crap but I think it would be good if done well and with a decent yeast and carbonation. What are you thinking for your recipe?

I'll post it from my pc later. Going to use Belle Saison cos my last saison was lovely with that yeast. Will probably put a little ginger in it. Or Orange zest, or both.

[Hanglow]

I made some rhubarb syrup last night and was considering adding some too, but wasn't sure how well it would go. Could also bottle with it to carbonate

I ended up grinding a bit of black pepper and coriander and chucked that in at the end. Not very much as I only wanted a hint from them

some unexciting pics

tidy as ever



Grains+salts waiting to be underlet


mash on, old faithful HLT, mash tun and boiler


First runnings nice and clear


The boil


running off into the fermentor. Nice pale and clear



OG 1.050 with 25l collected . The filter failed to work half way through, so it can't take 30g leaf and 50g pellets Will always need more leaf than pellets I guess if I want to keep using it. Will hopefully bottle in two weeks time, any idea how fast belle saison is?

[serum]

Should be done in 2 weeks, it's a bit of a monster

[Wonkydonkey]

Sounds really good. I'm planning a rhubarb said on.

I can see that being nice. Mind you the thornbridge one is pretty crap but I think it would be good if done well and with a decent yeast and carbonation. What are you thinking for your recipe?

I'll post it from my pc later. Going to use Belle Saison cos my last saison was lovely with that yeast. Will probably put a little ginger in it. Or Orange zest, or both.

I don't mean to highjack this thread, but I did a ruhbarb and ginger wine last year, and have just done a saison with the belle yeast. Which I'm supping now.
The next brew should be going on soon and the ruh & ging would be cool to do, so I'll be looking out for your brewing methods.


Ps, I added a bit of cara red to my saison and it's not so dry, but not that red either.

[Clibit]

It's a work in progress, but this is the general idea:

Batch Size (L): 19.0
Original Gravity (OG): 1.039
Final Gravity (FG): 1.002
Alcohol by Volume (ABV): 4.85 %
Bitterness (IBU): 32.6

2.500 kg Lager (78.74%)
0.450 kg Wheat Malt (14.17%)
0.225 kg Caramalt (7.09%)

25.0 g East Kent Golding Pellet (5.7% Alpha) @ 60 Minutes (Boil) (1.3 g/L)
25.0 g East Kent Golding Pellet (5.7% Alpha) @ 20 Minutes (Boil) (1.3 g/L)

0.5 g Rhubarb @ 20 Minutes (Boil)
0.5 g Rhubarb (Primary)
1kg Rhubarb (Secondary)

Danstar Belle Saison

[serum]

I reckon pilsner and anything from 500g to 1kg of weyermann Munich 1 would be good with rhubarb. Not sure you'd need the wheat in there. You could add 200g oats and call it rhubarb crumble beer!

[Clibit]

I reckon pilsner and anything from 500g to 1kg of weyermann Munich 1 would be good with rhubarb. Not sure you'd need the wheat in there. You could add 200g oats and call it rhubarb crumble beer!

Thanks I'm a saison novice so will take your advice on board. Do I have to rub butter into the oats? Lard? Sugar? Invert?

I generally use English malts though. Is that a problem? Could I funk things up with wacky hops?