Thanks Daab
Its fixed
all though i have to admit i didn't fully understand everything you typed :huh: .
I got my spancer on the thin brass nut and could not tighten it anymore but when i tried to loosen it, it felt very tight so i gave it a bit of a tap

(I have no fear in these sorts of stiuations) it loosened and after a couple of turns i could turn it with my fingers i kept turning untill it came out i figured any nut with full tank pressure on it would not be turnable by finger (Well i was hoping :stun )

When it came out i is in two parts

The tall bit had the PTFE ring on you mentioned and where it sits is a grove and the PTFE ring as the grove in as well, i thought about turning it over but decided not to instead i put a tiny bit teflon grease on.
The nut part has two o-rings

inside and they looked in good condition so all i did was put a smear of teflon grease on the shaft that it goes on.
Then screwed it down with one tap to tighten and bingo presureised the system no leaking.
As always many thanks to Daab for your help.
Ian
PS i was a bit shocked when i picked up the cylinder i was expecting something about knee high.