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Re: British hops

Post by MashBag » Thu Feb 17, 2022 7:19 pm

Yes indeed. Much better imo. Mashes a smashing (see what I did there 😂 ) easy drinking pint.

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Re: British hops

Post by barneey » Thu Feb 17, 2022 9:25 pm

Rather than using Bx trying the brew with Bullion :)
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Re: British hops

Post by Dennis King » Thu Feb 17, 2022 9:26 pm

Used mainly British hops over the years and can vouch for all the usual suspects. At the moment I'm drinking my second brew using Ernest and really enjoying it. It has a slight new world hop edge to it without being to overpowering.

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Re: British hops

Post by MarkA » Thu Feb 17, 2022 10:44 pm

Dennis King wrote:
Thu Feb 17, 2022 9:26 pm
Used mainly British hops over the years and can vouch for all the usual suspects. At the moment I'm drinking my second brew using Ernest and really enjoying it. It has a slight new world hop edge to it without being to overpowering.
That's another new one on me and will go on my 'to try' list, thanks Dennis!

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Re: British hops

Post by bitter_dave » Fri Feb 18, 2022 9:27 am

Dennis King wrote:
Thu Feb 17, 2022 9:26 pm
At the moment I'm drinking my second brew using Ernest and really enjoying it. It has a slight new world hop edge to it without being to overpowering.
Definitely going to try these if I can find them as whole hops at some point (pellets clog up my filter). Thanks for the tip. Like the idea of getting Some different flavours without it being overpowering.

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Re: British hops

Post by Cobnut » Fri Feb 18, 2022 9:49 am

bitter_dave wrote:
Fri Feb 18, 2022 9:27 am
Definitely going to try these if I can find them as whole hops at some point (pellets clog up my filter). Thanks for the tip. Like the idea of getting Some different flavours without it being overpowering.
Try https://www.abushelofhops.co.uk/
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Re: British hops

Post by bitter_dave » Fri Feb 18, 2022 10:25 am

Cobnut wrote:
Fri Feb 18, 2022 9:49 am
bitter_dave wrote:
Fri Feb 18, 2022 9:27 am
Definitely going to try these if I can find them as whole hops at some point (pellets clog up my filter). Thanks for the tip. Like the idea of getting Some different flavours without it being overpowering.
Try https://www.abushelofhops.co.uk/
Excellent - problem solved! Thanks Cobnut. Nice website and selection of hops. So many to try and love the idea of trying discontinued/obscure hops from decades ago!

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Re: British hops

Post by Dennis King » Fri Feb 18, 2022 7:09 pm

bitter_dave wrote:
Fri Feb 18, 2022 9:27 am
Dennis King wrote:
Thu Feb 17, 2022 9:26 pm
At the moment I'm drinking my second brew using Ernest and really enjoying it. It has a slight new world hop edge to it without being to overpowering.
Definitely going to try these if I can find them as whole hops at some point (pellets clog up my filter). Thanks for the tip. Like the idea of getting Some different flavours without it being overpowering.
Try here not only leaf but October's harvest https://www.abushelofhops.co.uk/product/ernest-100g/

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Re: British hops

Post by MashBag » Fri Feb 18, 2022 9:28 pm

Dennis King wrote:
Fri Feb 18, 2022 7:09 pm
bitter_dave wrote:
Fri Feb 18, 2022 9:27 am
Dennis King wrote:
Thu Feb 17, 2022 9:26 pm
At the moment I'm drinking my second brew using Ernest and really enjoying it. It has a slight new world hop edge to it without being to overpowering.
Definitely going to try these if I can find them as whole hops at some point (pellets clog up my filter). Thanks for the tip. Like the idea of getting Some different flavours without it being overpowering.
Try here not only leaf but October's harvest https://www.abushelofhops.co.uk/product/ernest-100g/
Oooo they sound like a contender for a single hop ale.

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Re: British hops

Post by bitter_dave » Sat Feb 19, 2022 12:19 pm

Thanks Dennis :)

I bought 100grams each of Ernest and Admiral from that website. I was tempted to buy some Keyworths Midseasons on the basis that they have a cool name and are a discontinued hop from the 1940s, but I'll leave that for another day :)

I'll report back when I've made the first one with the Ernest.

I think I'll stick with the recipe I used for my Bramling Cross ale so I can make a direct comparison, which was about 1042 gravity, bit of crystal, liberty bell yeast and fairly low IBU (22 IBU or thereabouts) with 100 grams of hops split fairly evenly between 30 min boil, 10 minute boil and 15 minute soak below 80c (exact amounts at each point adjusted to arrive at overall IBUs) (I've cut my overall boil time down, hence the lack of 60 or 90 min hops).

Lots to explore with British hops. I think this will be my brewing 'project' for 2022!

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Re: British hops

Post by Dennis King » Sat Feb 19, 2022 1:25 pm

Going to do my first brew with Keyworths Midseasons next weekend.

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Re: British hops

Post by bitter_dave » Sat Feb 19, 2022 1:46 pm

Dennis King wrote:
Sat Feb 19, 2022 1:25 pm
Going to do my first brew with Keyworths Midseasons next weekend.
What a coincidence! Please let us know what you think of them

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Re: British hops

Post by Good Ed » Sun Feb 20, 2022 10:22 am

Dennis King wrote:
Fri Feb 18, 2022 7:09 pm
bitter_dave wrote:
Fri Feb 18, 2022 9:27 am
Dennis King wrote:
Thu Feb 17, 2022 9:26 pm
At the moment I'm drinking my second brew using Ernest and really enjoying it. It has a slight new world hop edge to it without being to overpowering.
Definitely going to try these if I can find them as whole hops at some point (pellets clog up my filter). Thanks for the tip. Like the idea of getting Some different flavours without it being overpowering.
Try here not only leaf but October's harvest https://www.abushelofhops.co.uk/product/ernest-100g/
You will also find the quality second to none, very fresh. It's best to keep your eye out on Dorothy's page around September/October when she opens up the shop for that years harvest as some of the hops are in quite limited supply, but you can usually pick others up later in the year, and no hops are carried over for sale in the next harvest year.

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Re: British hops

Post by MashBag » Sun Feb 20, 2022 10:37 am

That does sound tempting. Even a day trip might be in order.

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Re: British hops

Post by Northern Brewer » Sun Feb 20, 2022 2:13 pm

I talked about some of the newer ones here :

https://www.thehomebrewforum.co.uk/thre ... ost-974445

I love Bramling Cross, but it can be a bit much on its own, better blended with Goldings IMO, and beware vintage variation, in hot years it can lose most of its blackcurrant character and go more like its Golding parent.

Shout for Keyworth Early in preference to Mid though.

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