A question re transfering from keg to keg

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A question re transfering from keg to keg

Post by paulg » Sun Dec 22, 2024 1:27 pm

I have transfered beer fron my sanke keg to a small corny keg using the beer out to beer out jumper method.
I had purged the corny and pressurised to 35 psi to set the lid and then reduced the pressure to 10 psi.
After filling I connected the gas line @10psi and then closed the bottle and sprayed everything with starsan to look for leaks.
this morning the regulator high gauge had dropped to nearly zero with the low showing 10 still.

After this long waffle,my question
Is it normal after transferring this way to lose some carbonation,therefore gas being reabsorbed into beer and regulator dropping?
there was no sign of leaks using starsan .

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Re: A question re transfering from keg to keg

Post by IPA » Tue Dec 24, 2024 8:36 am

paulg wrote:
Sun Dec 22, 2024 1:27 pm
I have transfered beer fron my sanke keg to a small corny keg using the beer out to beer out jumper method.
I had purged the corny and pressurised to 35 psi to set the lid and then reduced the pressure to 10 psi.
After filling I connected the gas line @10psi and then closed the bottle and sprayed everything with starsan to look for leaks.
this morning the regulator high gauge had dropped to nearly zero with the low showing 10 still.

After this long waffle,my question
Is it normal after transferring this way to lose some carbonation,therefore gas being reabsorbed into beer and regulator dropping?
there was no sign of leaks using starsan .
From your description of events it sounds like the gas bottle is empty
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Re: A question re transfering from keg to keg

Post by paulg » Tue Dec 24, 2024 10:55 am

IPA wrote:
Tue Dec 24, 2024 8:36 am
paulg wrote:
Sun Dec 22, 2024 1:27 pm
I have transfered beer fron my sanke keg to a small corny keg using the beer out to beer out jumper method.
I had purged the corny and pressurised to 35 psi to set the lid and then reduced the pressure to 10 psi.
After filling I connected the gas line @10psi and then closed the bottle and sprayed everything with starsan to look for leaks.
this morning the regulator high gauge had dropped to nearly zero with the low showing 10 still.

After this long waffle,my question
Is it normal after transferring this way to lose some carbonation,therefore gas being reabsorbed into beer and regulator dropping?
there was no sign of leaks using starsan .
From your description of events it sounds like the gas bottle is empty
IPA wrote:
Tue Dec 24, 2024 8:36 am
paulg wrote:
Sun Dec 22, 2024 1:27 pm
I have transfered beer fron my sanke keg to a small corny keg using the beer out to beer out jumper method.
I had purged the corny and pressurised to 35 psi to set the lid and then reduced the pressure to 10 psi.
After filling I connected the gas line @10psi and then closed the bottle and sprayed everything with starsan to look for leaks.
this morning the regulator high gauge had dropped to nearly zero with the low showing 10 still.

After this long waffle,my question
Is it normal after transferring this way to lose some carbonation,therefore gas being reabsorbed into beer and regulator dropping?
there was no sign of leaks using starsan .
From your description of events it sounds like the gas bottle is empty
when I said I closed the bottle I meant at the bottle screw valve.It is a bit low but still outside the red zone on the regulator when the bottle is open.To me it seems the high pressure side is dropping as the low pressure has a leak and the high side is replacing the lost gas ,therefore high pressure drops.or the beer is still absorbing gas.
The thing is the beer was keeping stable pressure before transfer,so unless carbonation was lost during transfer I am thinking leak
Still I am just turning gas back on twice a day to keep up carbination level and tomorrow it will be gone

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Re: A question re transfering from keg to keg

Post by PeeBee » Tue Dec 24, 2024 12:56 pm

As "IPA" says; sounds like your cylinder is empty!
paulg wrote:
Sun Dec 22, 2024 1:27 pm
... this morning the regulator high gauge had dropped to nearly zero with the low showing 10 still. ...
"10" means nothing. Those gauges are a bit naff, especially the high pressure ones. What they read is not reliable.

BUT! More importantly, the pressure is dropping! Remember, this (CO2) is a liquid. It has no "pressure", the gas around it has the fairly stable pressure needed to keep the liquid ... liquid! When the liquid is gone the cylinder is empty and you are "running on fumes" (the gauge will start dropping ... quickly!).

Go easy when serving, you might have very little time at the pressure you like before it is gone.

You won't get a refill for a couple of days. You may have noticed what day it is tomorrow!

Happy Xmas!
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Re: A question re transfering from keg to keg

Post by IPA » Tue Dec 24, 2024 1:08 pm

paulg wrote:
Sun Dec 22, 2024 1:27 pm
I have transfered beer fron my sanke keg to a small corny keg using the beer out to beer out jumper method.
I had purged the corny and pressurised to 35 psi to set the lid and then reduced the pressure to 10 psi.
After filling I connected the gas line @10psi and then closed the bottle and sprayed everything with starsan to look for leaks.
this morning the regulator high gauge had dropped to nearly zero with the low showing 10 still.

After this long waffle,my question
Is it normal after transferring this way to lose some carbonation,therefore gas being reabsorbed into beer and regulator dropping?
there was no sign of leaks using starsan .
Try turning up the pressure in the cornie by operating the pressure increase on the gas bottle. You will then know if the bottle is empty
"You're not drunk if you can lie on the floor without holding on." Dean Martin

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Re: A question re transfering from keg to keg

Post by paulg » Tue Dec 24, 2024 4:28 pm

IPA wrote:
Tue Dec 24, 2024 1:08 pm
paulg wrote:
Sun Dec 22, 2024 1:27 pm
I have transfered beer fron my sanke keg to a small corny keg using the beer out to beer out jumper method.
I had purged the corny and pressurised to 35 psi to set the lid and then reduced the pressure to 10 psi.
After filling I connected the gas line @10psi and then closed the bottle and sprayed everything with starsan to look for leaks.
this morning the regulator high gauge had dropped to nearly zero with the low showing 10 still.

After this long waffle,my question
Is it normal after transferring this way to lose some carbonation,therefore gas being reabsorbed into beer and regulator dropping?
there was no sign of leaks using starsan .
Try turning up the pressure in the cornie by operating the pressure increase on the gas bottle. You will then know if the bottle is empty
Turned up regular and low side gauge reacted as expected,showing higher pressure,so I think bottles is ok.
Once beer is gone will try with empty corny and see if there is still gas loss.It cant be being absorbed so must be a leak.
Renew all rubber orings if that is the case

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Re: A question re transfering from keg to keg

Post by IPA » Wed Dec 25, 2024 8:59 am

paulg wrote:
Tue Dec 24, 2024 4:28 pm
IPA wrote:
Tue Dec 24, 2024 1:08 pm
paulg wrote:
Sun Dec 22, 2024 1:27 pm
I have transfered beer fron my sanke keg to a small corny keg using the beer out to beer out jumper method.
I had purged the corny and pressurised to 35 psi to set the lid and then reduced the pressure to 10 psi.
After filling I connected the gas line @10psi and then closed the bottle and sprayed everything with starsan to look for leaks.
this morning the regulator high gauge had dropped to nearly zero with the low showing 10 still.

After this long waffle,my question
Is it normal after transferring this way to lose some carbonation,therefore gas being reabsorbed into beer and regulator dropping?
there was no sign of leaks using starsan .
Try turning up the pressure in the cornie by operating the pressure increase on the gas bottle. You will then know if the bottle is empty
Turned up regular and low side gauge reacted as expected,showing higher pressure,so I think bottles is ok.
Once beer is gone will try with empty corny and see if there is still gas loss.It cant be being absorbed so must be a leak.
Renew all rubber orings if that is the case
Another thought. The weights of the gas bottle, full and empty, are shown on the bottle. Weigh it on bathroom scales and you will know how much gas is in it.
Enjoy your Christmas
"You're not drunk if you can lie on the floor without holding on." Dean Martin

1. Life is not a journey to the grave with the intention of arriving safely in a pretty and well-preserved body, but rather to skid in sideways, thoroughly used, totally worn out and loudly proclaiming... "f*ck, what a trip

It's better to lose time with friends than to lose friends with time (Portuguese proverb)

Be who you are
Because those that mind don't matter
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