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Dual Regulator

Post by Doingatun » Tue Aug 15, 2006 7:37 pm

Hi, advice please.

I've just bought a dual regulator off Norman 3 gauges type - 1 bottle pressure - 1 gauge for each of the two outlets side by side mounted on a brass block - 2 grey cones with screw adjustment for adjustment of out put pressure.

The reg fitted to pub gas bottle, using outlet nearest bottle with K/Keg works ok pressure adjustable and gauge giving reading, screw on second outlet backed out no reading on gauge no escape of co2.

When I connected Corny Keg to the second outlet turn in the adjust screw I can't get the pressure above gauge 1 pressure - if I increase gauge 1 pressure I can then increase gauge 2 to the same pressure but not above.

I thought that each output would be individually controllable 0 - Max separately is the unit faulty or have got it wrong?

Cheers.

jasonaustin

Post by jasonaustin » Tue Aug 15, 2006 7:41 pm

I don't know the exact reg you have, but you are describing a typical dual reg. The second gauge is acting as a secondary regulator, which are limited to the highest pressure available from the primary reg. So, it's working as intended. If you need one keg higher pressure than the other you will need to connect the highest one to the primary connection.

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Post by Doingatun » Tue Aug 15, 2006 7:54 pm

Thanks for that Jason

Found this earlier post of the type of Reg I'm on about in a pic Vossy 1 posted half way down page

http://www.forumforfree.com/forums/inde ... entry14397

Sorry for the delay takes me ages

Road Runner

Post by Road Runner » Tue Aug 15, 2006 8:11 pm

Norm supplies Redditch Controls reg's. I have a 3 way Reg, 4 guages from Norm.

The way JA describes the reg function is quite correct for Norms Reg's.

The 2nd in line reg, will not supply gas at a higher pressure than reg 1. So put the keg requiring the higher pressure, maybe for force carbonating, on reg 1 & the keg at maybe normal dispence pressure on reg 2. Simple. :D

Then sit back and enjoy a home brew. :beer

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Post by Doingatun » Tue Aug 15, 2006 8:21 pm

Thanks for the help I'm no longer under pressure :)

The only problem is that KKeg is now empty and my corny was under going water test - nothing to drink and an empty glass :(

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Vossy1

Post by Vossy1 » Tue Aug 15, 2006 8:33 pm

Doingatun, sorry to jump in on your post but I also need advice on this regulator.

I set my 1st gauge to 20psi and also the second. I disconnected my cornies to give them a bit of a shake and then reconnected them and they both still read 20 psi. The 1st lot of gas should have been absorbed quite quickly, or at least a drop should have been noticed.

How can I tell what the corny's have dropped to ?

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Post by Doingatun » Tue Aug 15, 2006 8:42 pm

Sorry Vossy 1 I'm only learner - but the delivery pressure will quickly make good any drop due to absorbtion and the gauge will remain at 20psi?

Vossy1

Post by Vossy1 » Tue Aug 15, 2006 8:44 pm

DAT, still struggling...just hooked up both my cornies, 1st one nearest the bottle at 20 psi the other gauge has no reading whether I open the screw or not :(

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Post by Doingatun » Tue Aug 15, 2006 8:56 pm

On mine screw in to raise pressure out to decrease to far out and releases pressure in keg. I was struggling trying to get a higher pressure out of gauge 2 tan gauge 1 on low pressurse - you can't as advised above.

Vossy1

Post by Vossy1 » Tue Aug 15, 2006 8:58 pm

Getting quite miffed now, here's what I'm doing in order.

Purge gas from corny using prv

Open the gas bottle, bottle gauge shoots up to 800psi give or take.

Open screw below regulator nearest gas bottle by turning clockwise until 20psi is reached in 1st corny.

Open screw under 2nd regulator turning clockwise and nothing happens no pressure at all?

Help :(

PS, DaaB Yep, purged the o2, looked at your post on priming b4 starting with gas, you were/are invaluable as ever ;)

Vossy1

Post by Vossy1 » Tue Aug 15, 2006 9:10 pm

DaaB thanks for getting back so quickly ;)

Did exactly what you said and got co2 coming out of both outlets.

I re-attached the air lines and raised the first corny to 20psi as before.

I then opened the second reg and gas could be heard charging the corny but no reading on the dial. I tapped the dial a couple of times and still nothing :(

BlightyBrewer

Post by BlightyBrewer » Tue Aug 15, 2006 9:13 pm

Any evidence of leaks from the corny or reg?

Vossy1

Post by Vossy1 » Tue Aug 15, 2006 9:36 pm

BB no sign of leaks.

Opened the screw fully on reg 2 which means it sould pressurise to at least 20 psi as thats what 1's set at. The corny gassed up but nothing on the dial.

No flow can be heard once 2's up to pressure.

Just to prove 2's pressured, for experimental purposes only :P

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Its my Nelsons Revenge

I also tested corny 1 for comparison you understand :rolleyes: It was a bit metallic :lol: :P

tribs

Post by tribs » Tue Aug 15, 2006 9:59 pm

I had a faulty gauge on my norm supplied regulator but it was stuck around 15 psi. I returned it and Norm shipped me out a new one.

Vossy1

Post by Vossy1 » Tue Aug 15, 2006 10:04 pm

Cheers Tribs I'll get back in touch with Norman and see what he says ;)

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