"Hop Bomb" this weekend

[bconnery]

I don't know that I'd get lemon grass from amarillo but it is a great citrusy hop that works very well in a good pale ale.
American Pale Ales and 'Summer Ales' or blonde/golden ales, using Amarillo and other US hops such as Cascade, Simcoe, Chinook etc are very popular amongst Aussie homebrewers and microbrewers right now and they don't have to be super highly hopped IBU wise, just made so that the hop flavour is the predominant one.
I personally like to put a bittering hop in with US types hops like Cascade etc but is isn't necessary. They provide a nice level all on their own.
Go a good ale malt, a little medium crystal, use a neutral yeast like S05/US56 and lots of late hop additions...

[steve_flack]

Amarillo are fab - one of my favourite hops. I don't know if anyone else noticed but Jamil (aka Mr Malty) recently posted an article on massive late hopping for maximum hop flavour and aroma

http://www.mrmalty.com/late_hopping.htm

[oblivious]

Nice article all right

[delboy]

I'll buy some amarillo then and try them out, cheers

You won't regret it.

[bconnery]

A lot of guys down here in Aus have been using this technique of late, both in terms of just adding that late, 30-20 minutes left in the boil, and also using the hopburst technique, which is the same thing but with a pre-mixed combination of hops rather than a single hop.
Essentially they use no bittering addition at all and just start adding hops @30, or in fact mostly @20, and use more.
Generally the mix includes some sort of high alpha hop but this is not always the case.
This produces beers with IBU levels of 30-50, or pretty much whatever level you really desire, but packed with hop flavour and aroma.
A pale ale done with, say Simcoe and Amarillo etc. all late additions is a fantastic beer.
In general this was mostly applied with US hops, as this is where the technique gained prominence, but a few have started doing the same thing with English hops as well, particularly when using First Gold and Bramling Cross in combination without or without other ones.
I did an IPA, not necessarily that traditional, like this recently, but I did "cheat" and have a single bittering addition @60 as well

[oblivious]

Dam I could have done that last night with my first gold.

[Andy]

Interesting ! Anyone on here started adding hops with 30 (or less) mins to go without adding any previous bittering hops ?

[steve_flack]

I haven't gone the whole hog yet but plan to in a future beer. What I have been doing is massively increasing the late additions in my beers. Previously I might have added 10-15g...now I'm adding 40-50g in those styles where hop aroma/flavour is a big thing (my last Saison was late hopped with EKG and Saaz with about 60g in total in the last 20 minutes for 25L).

Sadly that Saison isn't ready so I don't have any real tasting notes for it yet.

I have plans for an IPA with a 100g bittering addition and 100g in two late additions.

[delboy]

I've done it a few times at 15 and 20 mins with no bittering addition (after mysterio suggested it to me) and after getting all evanglical about it managed to convince JP to have a bash at it as well on his last brew who dares wins , haven't heard back yet what he's made of it though.

[Jimberbob]

I was just wondering if adding all the hops late would affect the 'keepability' of the brew.

[delboy]

I was just wondering if adding all the hops late would affect the 'keepability' of the brew.

It does, it tastes that good you won't be able to keep any

[prodigal2]

I was just wondering if adding all the hops late would affect the 'keepability' of the brew.

It does, it tastes that good you won't be able to keep any

[Jimberbob]

I was just wondering if adding all the hops late would affect the 'keepability' of the brew.

It does, it tastes that good you won't be able to keep any