Citra and cascade ideas please.

[The_blue]

I want to do a summer IPA style beer.

I'd read about Citra and wanted to try it but then read cascade went well with it.

My plan was a fully citra brew to anout 4.5%, possible all pale malt but with a splash of crystal.

If i used the cascade as well should i just use it as 10 min and post boil? Mix the citra and cascade 50:50?

Any ideas please

[Skittlebrau]

I'm currently drinking this, and it's turned out incredible - I highly recommend it. You won't need to bother with the strange mix of malts, I don't think, the recipe was a user-upper. I'd say use 92% pale or lager malt, 3% or so crystal/munich/whatever and 5% torrie or wheat malt. The amazing flavour is coming from the hop schedule. I've made some comments in the brewday thread about perhaps upping the IBUs a touch - I'm not so sure that I'd do that now. It really is a lovely beer and goes down like pop (or Five Alive/Um Bongo as per the discussion in the thread). I brewed it at about 4.2% as I got some extra brewhouse efficiency from getting the water treatment right. I'll be keeping it at this OG next time I brew it.

[Zephiacus]

My American Pale ale recipe:

Zappa American Pale Ale:

Pale Malt(MO) 3200g
Vienna Malt 1500g
Wheat Malt 300g
Caramalt 500g

Cascade, 5.70% AA 20g 60 Mins
Citra 13.70% AA 10g 60 Mins
Cascade 20g 15 Mins
Cascade 40g Flame Out
Citra 20g Flame Out

Efficiency 75.00%
Original Gravity 1.053
Final Gravity 1.013
ABV 5.20%
Colour (EBC) 14
Bitterness (EBU) 40

Fermented out with US-05 yeast, tried, tested, delicious. This is my signature brew.

That combination of hops works really well, though I think cascade has really good bittering qualitys and like a bit of citra for aroma too. All pale with a splash of crystal would work really well with any combination of these hops!

[Twistedfinger]

I've just brewed this, mainly to use up some leftovers. Its in the fermenter now and smells great.

Style: American Pale Ale
Yeast: WLP001 (2L starter) or Safale US 05
Fermentation Temperature: 19c
Original Gravity: 1.052
Total IBU's: 40 ish
Colour (EBC): 12
Efficiency at End of Boil: 80%
Mash Length (mins): 90
Boil Length (mins): 60

Volumes etc.

Your Vessel Volume : 52L
Your Vessel Diameter : 45.5cm
Water Required :32.65L
Mash Temperature : 67*C
Volume at End of Boil :22.68L
Volume into Fermenter :20.41L
Brew Length : 18.9L
Total Grain Bill :4800g

Grains - Colours - Percentages and/or Weight

Grain 1: Pale Malt *** 4077g
Grain 2: Caramalt *** 272g
Grain 3: Biscuit Malt *** 272g
Grain 4: Wheat Malt *** 181g

Hops - AA% - IBUs - Weight (g or oz) at Minutes

Hop 1: Northern Brewer - 9% - 34.2 - 36g - 60 min
Hop 2: Cascade - 7.6% - 2.4 -9g - 10 min
Hop 3:Citra - 13.8% - 3.6 - 7g - 10 min
Hop 4:Cascade - 7.6% - 0 - 11g - 0 min
Hop 5: Citra - 13.8% - 0 - 10g - 0 min

Adjuncts/Minerals/Finings etc

Adjunct:
Mineral:
Finings:Irish Moss 15 min

The bittering hops used (Northern Brewer)were a 1/2 pack I had in stock you could use cascade or Citra if you want.

[The_blue]

Thanks guys!

[The_blue]

Ok iwent for :-

4.8kg maris
100g dark crystal


Boil Ingredients
15.00 g Cascade [7.90 %] - Boil 60.0 min Hop 3 13.3 IBUs
10.00 g Citra [14.50 %] - Boil 60.0 min Hop 4 14.8 IBUs
15.00 g Cascade [7.90 %] - Boil 10.0 min Hop 5 4.8 IBUs
15.00 g Citra [14.50 %] - Boil 10.0 min Hop 6 8.9 IBUs

Steeped Hops
20.00 g Citra [14.50 %] - Aroma Steep 0.0 min Hop 8 0.0 IBUs
20.00 g Cascade [7.90 %] - Aroma Steep 0.0 min Hop 7 0.0 IBUs


Sound OK?

[Skittlebrau]

Pretty sure it'll be lovely!

[The_blue]

fingers crossed!

[The_blue]

Boil is done, steeping hops are in.


Not smelling like i expected so far... Does the citrus come out in the ferment more?

[far9410]

It'll be great, I can smell it from here( in north Devon at the mo)

[The_blue]

lol.

Ended up with 21 litres at the correct gravity. So i recon it's gona be about 44 IBU not the 41 as expected.

Close enough for me.


Next question is going to be - Do i dry hop or not..... I'll ferment it out and then decide

[Zephiacus]

I've never dry hopped mine in 3-4 brews and its always been great. Something to try for my next one i reckon though, think it could add something to this brew.

[Skittlebrau]

You won't need to dry hop I wouldn't think, you should have enough there. Might be worth a look at the dry hopping thread in the Brewniversity forum though. I'm gonna try hop puree at some point...

[orlando]

Next question is going to be - Do i dry hop or not..... I'll ferment it out and then decide

I brewed an all cascade pale ale earlier in the year and dry hopped in the fermenter after the beer was close to FG, the result was stunning, can;t recommend it enough.

[The_blue]

I'll give it a taste after the ferment and decide then.

I had a cheaky sniff this morning now the ferment has started (3/4 inch high head after 12 hours!). The fruits are coming through.