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kris12312

hop over load

Post by kris12312 » Thu Jun 21, 2012 6:45 pm

Hop Over Load Ipa
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Batch size 44 litres
Boil size 50.99 litres
Boil time 60 minutes
Grain weight 13.48 kilograms
Efficiency 75%
Original gravity 1.051
Final gravity 1.024
Alcohol (by volume) 3.5%
Bitterness (IBU) 88
Color (SRM) 13.3°L

Yeast
4 liquid packs
White Labs
WLP002 English Ale

Grains/Extracts/Sugars
13.48 kilograms
Maris Otter
38ppg, 4°L 10 kilograms
74.2%
Vienna
35ppg, 4°L 3 kilograms
22.3%
Corn (Flaked)
39ppg, 0.5°L 0.2 kilograms
1.5%
Chocolate
29ppg, 350°L 0.1 kilograms
0.7%
Wheat (Flaked)
36ppg, 2°L 0.1 kilograms
0.7%
Barley (Roasted)
28ppg, 500°L 0.05 kilograms
0.4%
Black Patent
27ppg, 500°L 0.03 kilograms
0.2%

Hops
580 grams
Fuggles hops
5%, Pellet 175 grams
First gold hops
7.3%, Whole 175 grams
Willamette hops
6.7%, Whole 100 grams
Progress hops
5%, Whole 100 grams
Aurora hops
8.1%, Whole 30 grams

Additions
5 grams
Irish moss
Fining 5 grams

Mash
60 minutes, 68.60 litres
Strike
Target 67°C 42.19 litres
73°C
60 minutes (+0)
Sparge
Target 77°C 26.42 litres
84°C
Aurora hops
8.1%, Whole 1.06 ounces

Boil
60 minutes, 50.99 litres
Progress hops
5%, Whole 100 grams
60 minutes (+0)
First gold hops
7.3%, Whole 50 grams
30 minutes (+30)
First gold hops
7.3%, Whole 50 grams
15 minutes (+45)
Fuggles hops
5%, Pellet 50 grams
15 minutes (+45)
Irish moss
Fining 5 grams
15 minutes (+45)
Wort chiller 15 minutes (+45)
First gold hops
7.3%, Whole 50 grams
10 minutes (+50)
Fuggles hops
5%, Pellet 50 grams
10 minutes (+50)
Willamette hops
6.7%, Whole 50 grams
10 minutes (+50)
First gold hops
7.3%, Whole 25 grams
0 minutes (+60)
Fuggles hops
5%, Pellet 25 grams
0 minutes (+60)
Willamette hops
6.7%, Whole 25 grams
0 minutes (+60)

Ferment
14 days @ 18-20°C
Fuggles hops
5%, Pellet 25 grams
3 days (+11)
Fuggles hops
5%, Pellet 25 grams
3 days (+11)
Willamette hops
6.7%, Whole 25 grams
3 days (+11)

do this work ???

kris12312

Re: hop over load

Post by kris12312 » Thu Jun 21, 2012 11:39 pm

i was thinking about brewing this as i have a lot of hops and grain that need usen up ,but not sure how it will turn out any help ?

jimp2003

Re: hop over load

Post by jimp2003 » Fri Jun 22, 2012 8:42 pm

Are you sure you have got the OG and FG right? An OG of 1.051 ending at 1.024 doesn't ring true.....

kris12312

Re: hop over load

Post by kris12312 » Fri Jun 22, 2012 11:29 pm

mmmm im not sure i will have alook on brew pal on my phone its ment to be 6 % but do you think the grains and hop look ok ?

jimp2003

Re: hop over load

Post by jimp2003 » Sat Jun 23, 2012 3:33 pm

I think the hops look fine. Personally I would not put any of the chocolate, roasted barley or black malt in an IPA - not even for colour. I would try to keep it simple.

kris12312

Re: hop over load

Post by kris12312 » Sat Jun 23, 2012 5:08 pm

yes they were for colour i wont put them in then i will be brewing this next week will keep u updated

jimp2003

Re: hop over load

Post by jimp2003 » Sat Jun 23, 2012 8:12 pm

Yeah, definitely let us know how it goes.

Cheers!

Jim

darkonnis

Re: hop over load

Post by darkonnis » Tue Jul 03, 2012 6:58 pm

Just a quick one about your 60min hop additions, if they go over 50 IBU's they wont make any difference at 60 mins. (IE your calc might say itll give you 100 IBU's but in reality itll flatline around the 50 mark - its in the brewneversity post on dry hopping etc) I haven't tried it but thats something to look at. As for chocolate/dark/black malts, save them unless you're looking to make a black IPA :) The IPA category is so diluted you can do quite a bit and call it an IPA so only add them if you want it dark, otherwise theres not much point.

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Re: hop over load

Post by Befuddler » Tue Jul 03, 2012 7:28 pm

This is a... pretty bizarre recipe if I'm honest. :shock:

I think I see what you're trying to do with the Chocolate, Black and Roasted Barley, but they will contribute more than just colour and the flavours are likely to clash with such a high hop level. I would swap those 3 malts for some Crystal or Munich to get a bit of colour going. I'm not sure what the corn is there for either; I don't think you'd taste it at the 1.5% level, and personally I'm not convinced it fits in a hoppy beer anyway.

Speaking of the hops, I'm not sure if maybe you've got your timings backwards. Brewing software generally works in reverse, so the 0 min hops go in at the end of the boil, not the start. They way you've got this set up, you'd have a massive amount of bittering additions followed by progressively smaller aroma additions. You'll end up with a startlingly bitter beer without much hop flavour to carry it. Most IPA recipes would have relatively small bittering additions at the start of the boil with massive amounts chucked in at the end.

Looking at your gravity numbers, you must have made an error somewhere. I copied this recipe into my software and got an OG of 1.069 at 75% efficiency. You could get that to finish at 1.024 if you used a high mash temp of around 68c, but you'd have a very sweet, chewy beer. In my opinion, you should be aiming for a much lower FG.

Hope this helps you out a bit.
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kris12312

Re: hop over load

Post by kris12312 » Wed Jul 04, 2012 1:09 pm

50 litres
i have change this recpie grain bill is 8 kg maris otter , 5 kg vienna , 0.2 kg flaked wheat , 0.2 kg flaked barley, 0.3 kg flaked corn ( just i had it left over )
hops i have 100 g progress , 200 g first gold , 200g fuggles , 100 g willamette , 30 g aurora , all to be used in this ipa any help with recipe befor i go with what i had ???
yeast i have mauribrew ale 514 , nottingham , orwhite labs wlp005 british ale

thanks kris

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Re: hop over load

Post by Befuddler » Wed Jul 04, 2012 1:47 pm

I've never used loads of english hops in an IPA like that, but I would shoot for about 20 IBUs of progress at the start of the boil, then everything else in the last 15 mins, reserving maybe 50g Willamette, 50g First Gold and all of the Aurora for dry hopping.
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