Hobgoblin Recipe

[eskimobob]

up the amount of black/choc to get the colour you want BUT dont put it in at the start of the mash or you will get astringency.
stir the dark malts into the mash for the last 30 mins this way you will extract colour, flavor, almost all of the sugars but not the astringency

Ah - thanks Des, hadn't considered that. Presumably I will have to be ready to adjust the mash temp when adding this as otherwise it will drop significantly.

Looks like we'll be brewing it at the same time MD

[deadlydes]

temp probably wont drop that much.
but yeah just in case have a kettle of boiling water handy
i use this technique to get all my darker beers as i dont like too much astringency

[tribs]

I dump dark grains in at the beginning of the mash but don't pick up any astringency. Then again I do seem to have magic water

[eskimobob]

Then again I do seem to have magic water

Talking of water Tribs, we are presumably both on the same supply (North West Water) which is soft but what treatment do you do to yours? I'm thinking I should treat it (first time other than Campden tablets) on my next brew and see what the difference is.

[eskimobob]

Right final recipe (stuff ordered from H&G and will pick some up from Stockport shop too):

Brew length 19 litre based on 85% efficiency
3900 gm Pale Malt, Maris Otter (3.0 SRM)
136 gm Caramel/Crystal Malt - 80L (80.0 SRM)
91 gm Cara-Pils/Dextrine (2.0 SRM)
65 gm Black (Patent) Malt (500.0 SRM)
60 gm Chocolate Malt (450.0 SRM)
23 gm Progress [7.00%] (90 min) Hops 21.1 IBU
21 gm Styrian Goldings [5.00%] (15 min) Hops 6.1 IBU
15 gm Styrian Goldings [5.00%] (2 min) Hops 0.8 IBU
5 gm Irish Moss (Boil 15.0 min) Misc
SafAle English Ale (DCL Yeast #S-04)

Mash 90 mins in 10.5 litres at 66C
Boil 90 mins

Expected: OG =1.059 FG =1.015 SRM = 17.5 IBU = 28.1

[SteveD]

I see. Never used Styrian but it seems that it is a Fuggles derivative so you are probably right about the yeast giving it the fruitiness.

They are fuggles, albeit grown in Slovenia. Genetically identical to the fuggles fuggles.

[eskimobob]

I came across this again and thought I had better put a link to my brew day posting.

[Boo Boo]

I made a clone of HG a month back, even before tasting one. Turned out nice and malty, so I went and bought one to compare. Mine actually tasted better. Biased I guess.

[Orfy]

And so it should.

I think my beers are better than 90% of the real ales I buy.
I guess that's got a lot to do with the fact I brew to my taste.

[eskimobob]

I made a clone of HG a month back, even before tasting one. Turned out nice and malty, so I went and bought one to compare. Mine actually tasted better. Biased I guess.

What recipe did you use Boo Boo? - Oh and welcome by the way

[Boo Boo]

Thanks. I used Orfys recipie (or at least I think it was)

11 pounds pale english malt
1/2 pound carapils
.1 pound black patent
.02 pound chocolate malt

Mash @ 150f for 60 minutes

1.6 oz fuggles @ 4.5AA....60
.48 oz willamette @ 5.1 AA....15
.48 oz willamette @ 5.1 AA....2

fermented with S-04
1 week primary
1 week secondary

Bottled with 3/4 cup corn sugar for primming

[Orfy]

I've modified mine after a little research to match the notes from the brewery.

(Estimate: 1.056 SG)
(Estimate: 23.00 L)

4.80 kg Marris Otter Pale (2 Row) UK (3.0 SRM)
0.25 kg Caramel/Crystal Malt - 60L (60.0 SRM)
0.20 kg Cara-Pils/Dextrine (2.0 SRM)
0.15 kg Chocolate Malt (450.0 SRM)

15.00 gm Styrian Goldings [5.00%] (60 min) (First Wort Hop)
15.00 gm Fuggles [4.50%] (60 min) (First Wort Hop)
15.00 gm Styrian Goldings [5.00%] (30 min)
15.00 gm Fuggles [4.50%] (30 min)
15.00 gm Fuggles [4.50%] (60 min) (Aroma Hop-Steep)
15.00 gm Styrian Goldings [5.00%] (60 min) (Aroma Hop-Steep)

90 minute mash
60 minute boil

Depending how it comes out I may drop the choclate a little and add a little black.

[Frothy]

I too have recently become a fan. A pub at Flore had some Hobgoblin on cask and it was a-mazing, fresh fruity & a bit toffee. I thought the bottled stuff was good. Love the fact we've got the usual can of worms constructing a recipe

15.00 gm Fuggles [4.50%] (60 min) (Aroma Hop-Steep)
15.00 gm Styrian Goldings [5.00%] (60 min) (Aroma Hop-Steep)

May I ask what is the Aroma Hop Steep?

Frothy

[iowalad]

I used to think Hobgoblin was okay (here in the States) they I tried it in the Cask! We both enjoyed it. My wife loves it.

You guys are giving me to many beers to brew (not that I mind).

[AT]

Ah man i've got to get into this ag brewing and make a hobgoblin clone. I love that stuff and you can't buy it in Ireland as far as i know. It's my second fav after chimay blue