First gold

[slurp the apprentice]

I fancy making a pale ale using first gold hops and Golden promise pale malt anyone got any good recipes using these ingredients?

[bitter_dave]

I don't have a recipe, but Adnams Broadside is made exclusively with first gold hops. Perhaps google that

[norman]

Adnams May Day Ale Og 1047 ABV 5% 16 units colour 33 EBU

PALE MALT 4950 gms

Hops 90 minute boil
FIRST GOLD 49 gms

Add 10 gms Goldings last 15 minutes.

[slurp the apprentice]

Not ever tasted this ,is it a quality pale ale?

[guildofevil]

I'm a fan of First Gold and use it to make one of my regular brews. It might be a bit darker than you are looking for.

I use a total of 100g of hops in this baby.

Here is the recipe:

Quaffer.

3.5Kg Pale malt.
500g Crystal malt.

Mash @ 67C.

Boil.

60 min:
First Gold (8.2%AA) 30g
15 min:
First Gold (8.2%AA) 30g
5 min:
First Gold (8.2%AA) 15g
0 min:
First Gold (8.2%AA) 10g


Fermentation

Ferment with Gervin Ale yeast.
Barrel condition and dry hop with 15g of First Gold.

[oxford brewer]

I'm a fan of First Gold and use it to make one of my regular brews. It might be a bit darker than you are looking for.

I use a total of 100g of hops in this baby.

Here is the recipe:

Quaffer.

3.5Kg Pale malt.
500g Crystal malt.

Mash @ 67C.

Boil.

60 min:
First Gold (8.2%AA) 30g
15 min:
First Gold (8.2%AA) 30g
5 min:
First Gold (8.2%AA) 15g
0 min:
First Gold (8.2%AA) 10g


Fermentation

Ferment with Gervin Ale yeast.
Barrel condition and dry hop with 15g of First Gold.

Would this be anything like Badger First Gold?

[slurp the apprentice]

cheers i think i may give this a go

[guildofevil]

I've never had Badger first gold. English Ales are a bit difficult to get in Ireland.

It's a nice ale, which I originally brewed to showcase first gold hops and it became a regular of mine, because the results proved popular.

[mysterio]

guildofevil, I've been meaning to try some first gold hops and your recipe looks like a good'un. I might try it with some extra amber or chocolate malt.

[slurp the apprentice]

Thanks for the recipe guildofevil its turned out to be one of best i have brewed.I may have changed the Hop sequence where your recipe called for 10grams at 0mins i added the hops to the fermenting bucket and left them there until fermentation was over.I didn,t bother to dry hop and now i would be scared to as the beer[3weeks old] tastes so good i fear it would mess it up.Its turned out more malty than hoppy and it contrasts well with the TTL and Deuchar clones

[guildofevil]

Glad it turned out well for you. As I said, it's one of my regulars. I haven't brewed it in a while myself. It's a summer drink to me, for some reason.

More malty than hoppy? There should be about 35 IBU in that baby. Maybe we define hoppy differently. I suppose, the way the additions are presented, it emphasizes hop flavour and aroma, more than bittering.

The dry hopping addition only adds hop aroma, so it won't affect the flavour all that much. Having said that, if it's as good as you say it is, I probably wouldn't fiddle with it either.

Séan

[mysterio]

What's the OG supposed to be on your recipe GOE?

[guildofevil]

Well, obviously that would depend on your efficiency.

Assuming 75% efficiency it would be 1.041, which is about what I used to get.

My efficiency has gone up quite a bit since then though, so I would expect to get around 1.047 or 1.048 now.

Hmmm. I just realised that might be a problem for the next time I want to make this beer. I will have to reduce the ingredients to 3Kg of pale malt and 400g of crystal, just to end up with the same beer.

That might explain the “More malty than hoppy” character slurp the apprentice noted. Maybe he has a better efficiency than I had when I formulated this beer. What OG did you get Slurp?

Séan

[slurp the apprentice]

I got 1040 .Perhaps i am exaggerating the malt taste by comparing it to the TTL and deuchars clones.quaffer has a more distinct bitter characteristic to the other two brews ,i wandered if i did the correct thing [in terms of your recipe ] by adding the 0 minutes hops to the fermenting bucket but i am really pleased with the result.I get bored drinking the same beer pint after pint and i think quaffer going to add some variety to my mainly pale ale celler.Next time i make it i will add the dry hops hopefully b4 i empty this keg and compare the two.

[onlooker]

but Adnams Broadside is made exclusively with first gold hops.

Really? it used to have Goldings and Fuggels aswell. Have they done away with them?

Broadside is one of my all time favorate beers, I still get some Fuggels character in it but perhaps Im projecting.